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On one consumer iOS app with email and apple sign in as the two available options, 34% opt for apple, 66% for email. No meaningful change in conversion rate, but this generally isn't an issue 90%+. The prior arrangement wasn't just email, though, it was email or phone sign up, so take what you will.
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What apps are using Apple Sign In, anyway? I haven't run into any and kind of just assumed it died or hasn't launched yet.
I haven’t seen it until about 5 minutes ago— the ZDF (one of the German national broadcast channels) uses it for their on demand app. Otherwise I frequently use Apple Pay with Lieferando (a European delievery Service). Have to say it’s pretty seamless and it saves me 3 taps compared to paying with PayPal.
I’m not a dev but a consumer in this question and I’d just say a service or site that has Sign In with Apple and Apple Pay available on the web is and instant use on my end. I will continue to vote with my paltry wallet for these technologies to take off even more, especially Sign In with Apple. I don’t want to give my actual email out. I like the relay aspect. And it should make logging in and user management and si…
I don’t want to sound dismissive but the fact that a very tech-savvy HN user likes Sign In with Apple isn’t all that indicative of anything broader. I think that’s why the OP wanted to know what things look like on the backend.
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Instant satisfaction from Google search has made us lose sight of reality.
Adoption of ideas is less likely if anecdotes don’t spread to influence the target audience.
I mean what’s with this ridiculous fastidiousness about time economics in computer culture that is environmentally driving us off a cliff.
It’s full burn off the edge of the world! Better shave off minutes here and there.
Society hasn’t learned much about math since 2016.
I hate technologies like this. Not because I don't think they at least contribute some benefit to end users. I see it as oblivious executives trying to monopolize whatever they think they can monopolize. The future is in yubikey-style authentication.
Just needing to have every hardware key on hand to register with each new service is so bad I thought I was misunderstanding the UI. I never used them again.
The hoops might be worth it for a critical service that holds your $millions. But hardware keys are never going to compete on the 99% of services that people use, from the trivia app on their phone to Uber.
I hate technologies like this. Not because I don't think they at least contribute some benefit to end users. I see it as oblivious executives trying to monopolize whatever they think they can monopolize. The future is in yubikey-style authentication.
Yubikey-style is dead in the water since you can't back them up or exfiltrate the key. It will never appeal to more than a handful of users willing to jump through those hoops. Just needing to have every hardware key on hand to register with each new service is so bad I thought I was misunderstanding the UI. I never used them again. The hoops might be worth it for a critical service that holds your $millions. But har…
I will never use the same service to sign into multiple things. It's a single point of failure. If Apple ever decides to close your account you're S.O.L. I made the mistake once, had an account closed, got royally screwed. It wasn't Apple but it doesn't matter. I learned my lesson. Don't tie things together. I don't follow that for everything but for anything important I do as well as anything involving money.
Similarly if your Apple (or other SSO) login is compromised the blast area is much bigger as all linked sites are now compromised You could make the same argument if your password manager is compromised, but definitely worth being aware of
Haven’t done anything with Apple sign in, but I worked with a lot of other providers before. If you have multiple options, users might forget what service they used. This becomes an even bigger problem if the paid for a service with a different provider and can’t find their purchase. If you do use something like this, only having one provider (only Apple) makes things less confusing.
Doesn't most services just create an account like normal when you sign in with eg. Google, if the email is verified? Then you can just use the forgot password and use your mail to log in without Google even if it was created with Google. At least that is my experience.
Haven’t done anything with Apple sign in, but I worked with a lot of other providers before. If you have multiple options, users might forget what service they used. This becomes an even bigger problem if the paid for a service with a different provider and can’t find their purchase. If you do use something like this, only having one provider (only Apple) makes things less confusing.
We offer only Facebook, Google, or Email. People see the email box and start typing in their email, they forget if they signed in with Facebook or Google previously.
I'm surprised it isn't the other way around. Of course, this wasn't an issue before we added email, but we got a bunch of requests from people who didn't want to sign-in with Facebook or Google.
We still have about 70% of our users who sign-in with social providers, so I'm not completely sure it was worth the headache.
Anybody think this is a bad idea for some reason?
I'm looking at adding this into a new app I'm developing, and assumed I'd do a default apple login on IOS and google login on Android (with the option to go see more login options on other devices) Anybody think this is a bad idea for some reason?