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Ask HN: What's Missing from Covid19 Reporting?

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Re: Ask HN: What's Missing from Covid19 Reporting?

#31

In early public reporting on covid19 in the U.S., when the patient died it was common to hear that he/she had "underlying health issues". Why be so vague? It seems like more detail would help people identify their personal risk level. (Edited for tone.)

Privacy?

Re: Ask HN: What's Missing from Covid19 Reporting?

#32

The origin of the virus. The mainstream media assumes the virus was created in a natural process of mutation and jumping species, while there's this little paper [1] in Nature Medicine from 2015 where authors (virologists) confirm that they created a novel, human-transmisible coronavirus, based on a new virus they discovered among bats. Some of the authors of the paper are from Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and…

"This was created in a lab" has been the whisper of conspiracy-theorists. How likely is it? And a vial broke and it got released like in a Marvel comic?

Coronaviruses are actually created in labs as part of virology research (see my original link). It just seems that, in light of links that people posted, it did not escape/was released from the Wuhan lab - the strain that created the pandemic originated via natural processes.

Re: Ask HN: What's Missing from Covid19 Reporting?

#33

In early public reporting on covid19 in the U.S., when the patient died it was common to hear that he/she had "underlying health issues". Why be so vague? It seems like more detail would help people identify their personal risk level. (Edited for tone.)

Privacy?

I've heard that idea floated before, sometimes in conjunction with references to the U.S.'s HIPAA law.

But I've only heard speculation about this - never an explanation from someone closer to the source.

Re: Ask HN: What's Missing from Covid19 Reporting?

#34
post #29

As per: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594... In China: Total Confirmed = 81,782 Total Recovered = 74,181 Total Dead = 3,291 -------------------------- Remaining = 4,370 * I am assuming the number 4,370 will fall either into Recovered or Dead. Can someone confirm this theory? Is this going to the same for US? Total Confirmed Cases = 69,684 Total Recovered = 619 Total Dead = 1,049 -----------…

80%-85% of the 68k are probably mild cases that will recover without medical help. 15-20% will need hospitalization. ~5% will need ICUs. 0.5%-5% will die depending on whether the medical system is overwhelmed.

Maybe. If most are mild, how did they ever become confirmed cases? I would assume that mild cases would never get tested.

Re: Ask HN: What's Missing from Covid19 Reporting?

#35

I've heard that high blood pressure is a risk factor for the severity of a covid19 infection. But does that mean... (a) People who have actual, uncontrolled high BP? (b) People who would have high BP, but don't because it's controlled by medication? (c) People who are taking specific BP-controlling meds? (d) Some combo of (a), (b), (c)?

Iirc, it's about ACE2 inhibitors used in many BP drugs: they mess up with ACE receptors and the virus has an easy way in.

I know ACE inhibitors are sometimes prescribed to people with Type 1 diabetes. I wonder to what extent ACE inhibitors are responsible for both high-BP and diabetes being risk factors for covid19 severity.

Re: Ask HN: What's Missing from Covid19 Reporting?

#36
post #24

Reliable data on asymptomatic cases. The models we have at the moment are trying to fit parameters based on the known data, but of the known data, the only reliable one is the death rate. So there are a lot of degrees of freedom here with regards to the spread of the virus. (Because carriers are only identified on a limited basis, mostly in hospitals, it presents a skewed picture, so this data is not hugely useful) O…

> of the known data, the only reliable one is the death rate

Back of the napkin numbers to get someone's attention:

    deaths today / CFR of 0.009 = cases three weeks ago

    cases three weeks ago * 7 three day doublings = cases today
In much more detail:

http://hyperdrive.ca/coronavirus/index.php

And in the "4 out of 5 dentists agree" category:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/experts-say-the-coronav...

Re: Ask HN: What's Missing from Covid19 Reporting?

#37
I think we should be following all of these vaccines and clinical trials really closely.

We all watch what the stock market does every day. Let’s start watching what these trials are doing every day. Really put the spotlight on these folks.

I feel like as a population we’re acting too much like victims. Let’s take charge of this.

Re: Ask HN: What's Missing from Covid19 Reporting?

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Privacy?

I've heard that idea floated before, sometimes in conjunction with references to the U.S.'s HIPAA law. But I've only heard speculation about this - never an explanation from someone closer to the source.

I don’t know about the US but at least in Norway it’s stated as a reason. Age, geography and diagnosis is sometimes enough to identify a person, and there are regulations governing that here.

Re: Ask HN: What's Missing from Covid19 Reporting?

#40

I've heard that high blood pressure is a risk factor for the severity of a covid19 infection. But does that mean... (a) People who have actual, uncontrolled high BP? (b) People who would have high BP, but don't because it's controlled by medication? (c) People who are taking specific BP-controlling meds? (d) Some combo of (a), (b), (c)?

Iirc, it's about ACE2 inhibitors used in many BP drugs: they mess up with ACE receptors and the virus has an easy way in.

So should we treat corona with the opposite of an ace inhibitor?
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