i’m 28, i make 36k per year, i have a masters degree and two bachelors degrees, all in hard science. i pay $800/month for rent, i ride public transportation, i try to cook at home, i don’t socialize. i can save about $5k per year. i’m comfortable and could live for a lifetime on less than $40k per year.
Ask HN: How do you manage your financials?
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#32I had some credit card debt that I just was able to put a huge dent due to my new job.
I manage my finances mainly through estimation of costs . So like for the first month of my new job I saw how much I used for personal expenses and calibrated to that.
I did splurge on some Apple stuff at the end of the year on credit .
My biggest problem is that I have been rolling over multiple 401ks over the years so I’m unsure of my return.
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#33My approach started with Dave Ramsey, but has evolved a little based on "I will teach you to be rich" and some others. In general, I see my finances as a funnel - income comes in and flows to fixed expenses, then to retirement savings and kids education, then to short term savings.
* Tell incoming money where to go, don't live paycheck to paycheck. Doing this better is probably an area I could improve.
* Ensure a 1000 emergency fund in a savings account if you have none already. This is "lost my job" money.
* Ensure income > expenses. So much could be said about this, but it's simple math in the end. You won't get ahead if expenses > income. If this is not the case, focus first on income (ask for raise, look for second or better job, do side gigs), then on expenses (cut spending, get out of vehicle/credit card debt).
* Periodically review spending and see how you can spend less or increase income. I do much of my own car work (~3k this year) and work on some side gigs.
* Don't go into debt except for house. Pay credit card off each cycle. It is there ONLY to get the 1-10% reduction in spending via cash-back rewards. I don't personally feel chasing reward cards is worth it, just pick one that does cash back with minimal fuss. For us this was Amazon Prime's chase card.
* Ensure 3-6 months expenses in an emergency fund (Capital One Money Market). Example, if you average spending 3000/mo, you need 9000-18000. Now you have that long to look for a new job or float a huge emergency, etc.
* As long as that is maxed out, put as much as possible each month in tax-advantaged accounts. Max out IRAs/401ks/education savings/health savings/etc. Max out matched retirement accounts (401k, etc) first. Lest I sound rich, I'm not where I can do this every month yet.
* For IRA, use M1 because it's fee-free. Research a simple blend of ETFs in proportions relative to your risk profile. If you have a while before retirement, something like %90 Stock (VT,VTI), 10% Bonds (BND)
* Save any remaining in taxable stock account at M1 for short term savings (car/vacation/large projects/etc). Research a simple blend of ETFs in a lower-risk config. (ie 10% stocks, 90% bonds)
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#34If the itch you're trying to scratch is two parts "control" and one part "understanding", it's a scratcher like no other.
Since everything is text-based, you can slowly automate all the boring parts, as soon as they become boring.
At this stage, I have a scraper that downloads plaintext bank statements, payslips, and 401k transactions, a transformer script (mostly `awk`) that converts those csvs into ledger's format, a makefile that coordinates it all, and a git repository that all this crap lives in (raw data, processed data, ledgers, and code).
I use this to track investments, settle debts among friends and roommates, keep track of tax deductions, and maintain a birds-eye statistical view of my accounts. I check in about once every 3 weeks, I'd guess. I spend maybe 1 hour updating the ledgers and balance-checking, and another hour iterating on some module or another.
It's more work to maintain, but it's a labor of love, and I've learned a lot about accounting and programming along the way. It's like a meditation practice at this point.
Plus, if in the future I ever want to start a business, I'm very confident that I'd be able to keep track of my own finances without needing to hire someone or pay for accounting software, at least for the first couple years.
TLDR; vim + ledger + puppeteer + gnu utilities.
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#35"Banking" tracks current assets/loans/etc as a current picture as well as predicting saving/interest/tax/return rates and giving an estimated assets at age X.
"Budgeting" tracks how much money is earned/spent in various categories and if it's on track for the years estimates. It also keeps track of expected yearly savings/spending and I sometimes adjust based on my habits/needs/desires.
I at some point every Sunday (either when I wake up or go to sleep usually) spend an hour a week updating all my accounts/spending. It's a great habit I've built over about 5 years now and it's really empowering. It's not about tracking every last dollar but more about knowing generally where your spending is going and if you're okay with those choices. It doesn't have to be set in stone either, but it means that increased spending is a deliberate choice you have to consider and weigh the value of.
It's a bit manual but I find rolling your own is really the only way to get everything you want. No software will cut it for sufficiently complex categorization (for example, I know exactly how much I spend on toilet paper because I break it out separately in a household paper category with paper towels and tissues), and building it yourself in code is probably a waste of time. Sheets/Excel really shine here.
For reference, I have about 15 or so accounts I check between credit cards, banks, investment accounts, Venmo, etc.
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#37I live well enough within my means that I don't have to bother with any kind of accounting. On a typical tech salary living in a relatively cheap COL area, I bought a house about half of the price I could afford. I exclusively purchase used vehicles (partly because I am am enthusiast and enjoy working on them, but even a 10 year old low mileage modern vehicle is pretty reliable and cheap to maintain), and I don't sho…
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#38I use Quicken, but not happy with it since they moved to annual subscription model. But with more than 20 years of data in it, I'm locked in. Looking to migrate to beancount, but the data migration is hard. I'm contemplating starting anew with beancount and forgoing my historical data. I could easily do without the data, but something psychological is at play, and I can't get over it yet.
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#39I live well enough within my means that I don't have to bother with any kind of accounting. On a typical tech salary living in a relatively cheap COL area, I bought a house about half of the price I could afford. I exclusively purchase used vehicles (partly because I am am enthusiast and enjoy working on them, but even a 10 year old low mileage modern vehicle is pretty reliable and cheap to maintain), and I don't sho…
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#40I have been thinking about writing an app to do the things like YNAB/Mint but better.
Would you like to see something like this? Would you pay for an app like this? What are some of the things you would like the app to do?