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Re: Ask HN: Did anyone leave Software Engineering as your profession? If yes, why?

#31
Surprisingly common to feel like this. You've done 4 years. Hope you've been saving hard. You should be able to take a year out and rest up and see what takes your fancy - you might find after a good break your interest in software is rekindled.

p.s. I believe all software engineers should be factoring in a year out for every five years worked.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone leave Software Engineering as your profession? If yes, why?

#32
Not sure if everyone feels this way, but I kind of hate "software engineering". I feel like once the logic or core principle is figured out, the rest is just the chore of implementation. It's like the fun part is visualizing how everything should work in your head, then you have to do the boring part of typing it all out, debugging, dealing with stakeholders etc which forms 90% of "software engineering".

I'm a lot happier now that I can outsource some of that work to other people. Maybe in the future some of the boring 90% can be automated away, but the human factors remain.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone leave Software Engineering as your profession? If yes, why?

#33

Did 10 years at 4-6 companies, from startups to big co. Felt like most coworkers were big pussies who couldn’t even change their own car oil. Their time is just so valuable. I was always handy, did all my own auto/home repairs, etc. so took the leap and started buying distressed properties as-is in “bad” neighborhoods. Learned a lot about evicting squatters, keeping homeless and druggies from trespassing and loiterin…

Call me a pussy but your new job sounds a hell of a lot worse than most software Dev jobs to me. Each his own I suppose.

I think Op is some parody / troll account. It's too unhinged and it's trying too hard to offend. I don't see any other explanation.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone leave Software Engineering as your profession? If yes, why?

#34

I moved to sales & investing after 10 years of coding. I still write code every day, but only for myself. For me, programming is beautiful if I am in control of the product getting built. It's a complete package and the creative aspects is what gives me the thrills. Being a code monkey does not.

How’d you do that move?

Jumped right in. Struggled a lot in the first six months. Then it got better.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone leave Software Engineering as your profession? If yes, why?

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Call me a pussy but your new job sounds a hell of a lot worse than most software Dev jobs to me. Each his own I suppose.

I think Op is some parody / troll account. It's too unhinged and it's trying too hard to offend. I don't see any other explanation.

Is using the word "pussies" trying hard to offend? It seems like a pretty legitimate post, I know many people that think like this guy, only most of them don't read hacker news..

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone leave Software Engineering as your profession? If yes, why?

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post #32

Not sure if everyone feels this way, but I kind of hate "software engineering". I feel like once the logic or core principle is figured out, the rest is just the chore of implementation. It's like the fun part is visualizing how everything should work in your head, then you have to do the boring part of typing it all out, debugging, dealing with stakeholders etc which forms 90% of "software engineering". I'm a lot ha…

Try being an analyst or architect. This way, the "boring" work gets done by coders, while you define the work, figure out big problems etc. It can be quite fun.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone leave Software Engineering as your profession? If yes, why?

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post #4

I'm currently on my first break after 6 years with no job lined up and I'm not sure I want to go back to software. Unfortunately I don't have any answers but as the other responses point out software is a gilded cage because it would be very hard to get anywhere near an equivalent salary doing anything else. I had become increasingly disillusioned with software, mainly the maddening bureaucracy, problematic managemen…

Wow, I feel exactly the same. Except that I have been a software engineer for 20 years. I lasted so long changing jobs every 4-5 years. Usually, every time I started feeling exhausted at a job, I started looking and changing before it was too late.

In my current job, we have a globally distributed application that can handle 1000 times more load than expected. We have a sufficiently complex CI / CD process that took almost as long to develop as the application. We have a developer whose job is to fill out TPS reports. The application could have been much simpler, but we had to use certain technologies. Then we have so many ceremonies around it, such as daily surveys, meaningless waterfall style planning and then the use of tools for agile practices for waterfall style releases. It takes at least one hour to create tickets for the approval of the commercial process before each production boost. All the time, they told us that we needed CI / CD so that we can release code more frequently and easily.

Now in my forties, I have a hard time changing and I have probably stayed too long in my current job. It's not that I'm not receiving offers, but I feel that all jobs are the same, at least, for web developers. Basically, create things that help with sales and marketing, either directly or indirectly.

Sometimes I think that my feelings are what some people call midlife crisis and that I should do something typical of people in their 40s, like buying a sports car.

Not sure what the answer is. I felt that I should also share my frustration.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone leave Software Engineering as your profession? If yes, why?

#38
post #4

I'm currently on my first break after 6 years with no job lined up and I'm not sure I want to go back to software. Unfortunately I don't have any answers but as the other responses point out software is a gilded cage because it would be very hard to get anywhere near an equivalent salary doing anything else. I had become increasingly disillusioned with software, mainly the maddening bureaucracy, problematic managemen…

Wow, I feel exactly the same. Except that I have been a software engineer for 20 years. I lasted so long changing jobs every 4-5 years. Usually, every time I started feeling exhausted at a job, I started looking and changing before it was too late. In my current job, we have a globally distributed application that can handle 1000 times more load than expected. We have a sufficiently complex CI / CD process that took…

Those last few paragraphs really resonated with me in a funny way. I find lately that the more bored and unfulfilled I become with my job, the harder I start staring at pictures of that new Corvette...

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone leave Software Engineering as your profession? If yes, why?

#39
post #23

This isn't for everyone, but after working as a software dev for 3 years I went to law school. Because I had a technical background, I was immediately pegged to be a patent attorney. I know, most software developers hate patents, but most of the work is not as evil as it seems in the press. There are often real disputes, between real companies, on patented ideas that are incredibly similar. Having a solid technical f…

It seems that you still have found some middle ground between software engineering and law by creating Docket Alarm. :-) Congratulations, it seems like a nice and useful platform. Apparently, it is Django-based, though I'm curious about what are other components of your stack (e.g., for mobile app and analytics).

> It seems that you still have found some middle ground between software engineering and law by creating Docket Alarm.

Yup, for me, it was the right balance. If you want to start a company, learn engineering, then learn something else, then build something for that something else.

> Apparently, it is Django-based, though I'm curious about what are other components of your stack

I use Django, jquery, elasticsearch, and google app engine 4 years ago. For analytics, I have used so many platforms and have built a bunch of custom stuff. Sadly, no native mobile app, but the site is fully responsive.

I'm pretty skeptical of taking my past decisions and re-applying them today. Today, parts of it (especially jquery) seem outdated, I'd probably choose vue. Even Python, which is generally great, is causing pain today (moving 2.x to 3.x; performance for a number of corner cases). App Engine used to be an incredible platform, but google has stripped so many features from it that it's hard to describe it today as a real PaaS.

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