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Re: Ask HN: Invited by Facebook for privacy roundtable. What questions should I ask?

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Post by privacy_esq »

mrweasel wrote: post #22
Wiretrip wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GDPR is a good question as I'm not sure they can 'waive' the GDPR rights. There is an ongoing court case in the EU at present.

I'm fairly sure that you can't make "waiving" the rights that the GDPR grants you a condition for using a service.

Privacy lawyer here...you 100% cannot waive your GDPR rights as a condition of the service. In fact your consent can not be a precondition of using the service. Most adtech companies out there will try to rely on legitimate interest as a basis for processing.

Re: Ask HN: Invited by Facebook for privacy roundtable. What questions should I ask?

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Post by privacy_esq »

Ask them what their main basis for processing personal data under GDPR is when they collect user data. Also ask about their retention management. How can they ensure personal data is only retained so long as they have a basis for processing?

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Post by I_am_tiberius »

This one: If you don't use Whatsapp but a friend of yours does, he has to give Whatsapp access to his address book which includes your name as well (although you don't use Whatsapp). So the question is: Does Facebook/Whatsapp have information about such passive users (e.g. the name or phone number)?

Re: Ask HN: Invited by Facebook for privacy roundtable. What questions should I ask?

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Post by r3bl »

andrerm wrote: post #26

Facebook and a "privacy friendly" analytics company. This roundtable will be used just for propaganda.

Huh? From a quick skim here[0], they don't collect IP addresses, respect DNT headers, and delete user agents after 90 days.

I legitly can't think of a more privacy-friendly way to do that. If you're paranoid enough to believe that no analytics is the only right solution, you probably have DNT on, and this is one of the rare cases in which it's actually respected.

[0] https://docs.simpleanalytics.com/what-we-collect

Re: Ask HN: Invited by Facebook for privacy roundtable. What questions should I ask?

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Post by harianus »

ratel wrote: post #17

Well, The big one would be nice: Facebook makes her money from harvesting and selling privacy sensitive data, or at least that is the perception shared by nation states, the EU and the wider audience. For any claim Facebook makes about respecting privacy to have at least face validity she need to show how she is going to make money without violating her users privacy. So how is Facebook going to make money if they ne…

They need to change their business model to be able to become privacy friendly, I totally agree. Not even sure which huge company is privacy friendly. Maybe it's not even possible at that level. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't.

I will try to ask as much as possible, and really like your questions of what data points are useful and are they privacy sensitive.

Thanks!

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Post by mediumdeviation »

pdpi wrote: post #7
harianus wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks. That would be interesting to know. One thing; what do you mean with measure it?

> One thing; what do you mean with measure it? Come PSC (Performance Summary Cycle) time, how do they justify a "Meets All" or "Exceeds" evaluation?

Only aiding and abetting one genocide this year would be a 50% improvement over last year!

Re: Ask HN: Invited by Facebook for privacy roundtable. What questions should I ask?

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Post by rfrey »

kjar wrote: post #18

You might ask if FB organization is a parasitic operation sucking down personal data any way they can and selling it to who?. Who knows who else. You know part of the answer. Watch the squirm ensue.

The squirming would be from everyone else in the room, embarrassed on your behalf.

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Post by gaogao »

rahuldottech wrote: post #11

1. How can one find out about their shadow profiles that have been created by FB? 2. How can they delete the data associated with the above? 3. Info on how they group personal data from WhatsApp, FB and Instagram 4. Who do they share such data with? 5. Who within FB is responsible for privacy policies, etc.?

> This Thursday I'm invited to a privacy roundtable with Facebook Legal and Privacy Policy teams

On 5, I would hazard that it's those teams. Of course, the buck stops at zuck.

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