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Re: Ask HN: Should I find a job or try to build a profitable project?

#31
I’m in a similar position and have an option #4 that would be my own preferred route, but I’ve only recently started thinking about it.

#4 Partner in as a tech lead or cofounder on someone else’s early stage idea.

The question is how to find that person. Angle list? Product Hunt? Who has some ideas?

I think once you’re working among the right group, you might find more startup founders to work with in a way that is inline with what you seem to want.

Re: Ask HN: Should I find a job or try to build a profitable project?

#32
Let me add a complication. You are at an age where most people have kids. Personally I've choose not to and went very careful to successfully not marry nor have kids, so... just saying you should calculate how that will/will-not compute into your plan.

Re: Ask HN: Should I find a job or try to build a profitable project?

#33
Similar boat to you. Had the exact same question in my life.

I decided for a totally different option, lets call it option #4:

#4 Take an "easy" programming job and use your spare time on nights/weekends to build a software business.

I chose this option because I wasn't willing to risk my savings. Plain and simple. I want to retire some day, and blowing 60k for a ~5% chance at making a profitable business wasn't worth it to me.

Re: Ask HN: Should I find a job or try to build a profitable project?

#34
Don't move to NYC without a job.

I love living in NYC, have been here for 20+ years. But your $60k will disappear rapidly. If you want to be in the NYC metro area while you look for a job pick a suburb on a train line about an hour out of the City (NJ, NY east of the Hudson, maybe Long Island). Your burn rate will be much less but you'll be able to get into Manhattan and nearby business districts in a predictable amount of time for interviews and networking events (no recommendation on the train line but avoid the single track train lines).

Re: Ask HN: Should I find a job or try to build a profitable project?

#35
post #22

Work part time to pay the bills and spend the rest of your time working on your projects. The $60,000 of yours will disappear faster than you think. You'll eventually spend money on the business I assume.

Do you have recommendations on where I can find part-time work?

If you post your email / contact info on your profile, I can reach out with some ideas. I work in NYC and happy to connect you with people depending on your interest areas / skillset.

Re: Ask HN: Should I find a job or try to build a profitable project?

#36
#3 sounds reasonable - unless you know what that startup idea is, proved it with a handful of customers, the likelyhood of it working out is Also, if you do get a job in nyc area - try for one that pays multiple of whatever you were making down south.

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#37

If you're bootstrapping, be wary of the NYC burn rate: your expense base will explode and you're going to get taxed up the wazoo on your early revenue. Worst business environment I've ever had to operate in. If you're selling primarily to a NYC audience or industry, then move there of course - get close to the customer. Otherwise you've got a lot more runway in the South....

I should have been more clear. I will only move to NYC if I get a job there.

Re: Ask HN: Should I find a job or try to build a profitable project?

#38
post #34

Don't move to NYC without a job. I love living in NYC, have been here for 20+ years. But your $60k will disappear rapidly. If you want to be in the NYC metro area while you look for a job pick a suburb on a train line about an hour out of the City (NJ, NY east of the Hudson, maybe Long Island). Your burn rate will be much less but you'll be able to get into Manhattan and nearby business districts in a predictable amo…

I should have been more clear. I will only move to NYC if I get a job there.

But thank you for the extra information about NYC. That's good to know.

Re: Ask HN: Should I find a job or try to build a profitable project?

#39
post #4

With your runway, #2 sounds great, but try and find a different idea. Productivity apps and yelp like services are a dime a dozen. You'll probably waste 1-2 years, and expect to waste 3-5 more before you can replace your main source of income. Entrepreneurship is risky and developing software is the easy part.

Yea, I'm not sure they are great ideas. My reasoning for the productivity app is because I want to build something I personally need and I haven't found a good solution. The yelp-like app is because I know I want to work with small businesses. I just don't know exactly how yet. So, you're right. I need to spend more time on my ideas. Thanks!

Someone told me early on that dealing with small businesses was a nightmare. You'ld get Mom or Pop quibbling over a $75 bill, whereas enterprise customers will pay a $40K bill without batting an eye as long as the paperwork is in order.

Over the years I've found the enterprise side of this to be true (although it will take forever to get them to sign in the first place and they'll sometimes pay their bills so late you're gasping by the time you see the cash).

I don't have any experience with dealing with small business, maybe it's not as bad as I imagine.

Re: Ask HN: Should I find a job or try to build a profitable project?

#40
post #4

With your runway, #2 sounds great, but try and find a different idea. Productivity apps and yelp like services are a dime a dozen. You'll probably waste 1-2 years, and expect to waste 3-5 more before you can replace your main source of income. Entrepreneurship is risky and developing software is the easy part.

Yea, I'm not sure they are great ideas. My reasoning for the productivity app is because I want to build something I personally need and I haven't found a good solution. The yelp-like app is because I know I want to work with small businesses. I just don't know exactly how yet. So, you're right. I need to spend more time on my ideas. Thanks!

Would you actually use the productivity app if you build it? Or you just think you might?

How long would it take to prototype it out to the point that you can start dog fooding it?

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