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Ask HN: Why does Paypal still exist?

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Re: Ask HN: Why does Paypal still exist?

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post #26

Because nobody else has a "buy now" button that is so simple to be plopped onto a static site and doesn't have a monthly fee. Stripe requires a back end and a fee. Shopify has a monthly fee. If you're doing low volume, that fee adds up.

there are a few "buy me a coffee" websites that basically act as a middle man for stripe that take 2-3% fee.

On top of stripes 2.9 percent fee?

Re: Ask HN: Why does Paypal still exist?

#32
post #13

Paypal provides an effective dispute resolution process and enables customers to pay for stuff by explicitly authorizing a payment and without giving away their payment info to unknown third-parties.

I once saw a pdf which listed all the third parties that PayPal shares its information with. It was more than 30 pages.

> I once saw a pdf which listed all the third parties that PayPal shares its information with.

It's immatetial how much data paypal shares around. What's important is that I can share my CC with paypal and use paypal to buy stuff from any store that accepts it, and the risk of my CC data ending up in the private stash of any random CC fraudster is so low that such a thing is practically unthinkable.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Paypal still exist?

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Paypal provides an effective dispute resolution process and enables customers to pay for stuff by explicitly authorizing a payment and without giving away their payment info to unknown third-parties. > I once saw a pdf which listed all the third parties that PayPal shares its information with. It was more than 30 pages. What kind of info do they share with those third parties? I think the GP's point stands, since…

Offtopic: PayPal shares more than we think it does. I've had issues where certain merchants asked me to confirm identity by sending copy of utility bill for address I had on PayPal account. I thought my address is private so sent a bill for my siblings house where I also paid the bills for internet, but they reported that address is not same with PayPal, so I argued a bit but eventually had to send one for correct ad…

In the interest of giving PayPal some potential benefit of doubt, it could be that they're simply returns a match/no-match on the address as a fraud-reduction step or something.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Paypal still exist?

#36
PayPal charges the same 2.9% + $0.30 as Stripe, and 2.7% flat for swiped in-person transactions. They support more countries than any other online payment service. Why would anyone want PayPal to not exist? As for why nobody "dethrones" PayPal, it's because being licensed and regulated in over 200 separate territories, having to become a chartered and fully regulated -bank- in some of them to process payments, is beyond daunting. It requires big backers, big money, a HUGE regulatory compliance staff, and work and processes that take many years to establish.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Paypal still exist?

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post #18

The fee is paid by businesses, not the end-user customers who use PayPal. Thus it doesn't even enter the equation when users choose PayPal. I personally like PayPal because then I only have to update my card info in one place as opposed to 50 different websites. Also when some random website gets hacked, I can be sure that my card info isn't getting leaked. In addition, some sites only accept cards that have been iss…

guess, to whom the business is passing these 5%?

Paying with a card may cut down the fees for the business, but it won't cut down the amount that the end user has to pay.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Paypal still exist?

#40
As a buyer, it cost the same whether I pay with PayPal or directly to the vendors website, and having been a user of PayPal for 15-20 years now, I would actually congratulate them on their recent UI and UX improvements. The new PayPal is fantastic.
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