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Ask HN: What do you think of the Google Stadia?

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Re: Ask HN: What do you think of the Google Stadia?

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Post by carlesfe »

I don't know about Google Stadia in particular, but I was in the MWC this year and got to experience an over-the-net gaming session. My friends and me played Pro Evolution Soccer for about 10 mins at a stable 60fps from a 5G connection. 4 player mode.

I'm not a gamer. The only modern video console I own is a Nintendo Switch that I bought to play BoTW. My previous console was a Super Nintendo. I only own low-powered laptops and will probably never build a gaming PC.

But, if this remote-gaming takes off, and I can play any game from any console at any time by paying a monthly fee, count me in.

It is my understanding that this is limited to PC-gaming only. Heck, I'll even say that console manufacturers, who sell money by, you know, selling consoles, won't be very happy about this. But, in my opinion, it is an inevitable future. It is music streaming over owning CDs. It is Netflix over renting DVDs.

Re: Ask HN: What do you think of the Google Stadia?

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Post by ykevinator »

dyeje wrote: post #24

I don't think it will work for multiple reasons. 1. Google doesn't have gaming in their corporate DNA. They will commit a bunch of faux pas that will alienate the gaming community. 2. Streaming games adds latency. Latency problems ruin the experience. 3. Gamers are a very fickle community and if they don't feel your company 'gets' them, they will not engage with you.

This is exactly how I feel but you said it better than what I was thinking.

Re: Ask HN: What do you think of the Google Stadia?

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Post by ykevinator »

gcatalfamo wrote: post #32

The comments in this thread is why we don't deserve nice things. I too think Google has a reputation for killing nice projects or not enough gaming experience, but we have to start somewhere, and why not Google that has the resources to do it.

I laughed out loud

Re: Ask HN: What do you think of the Google Stadia?

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Post by dmurray »

vorpalhex wrote: post #5
karlkatzke wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think they're being realistic about what the world is going to be like any time soon. While the 5th generation cellular protocols will be great for data in cities, it will still leave people in rural areas behind on 4th or earlier generations because the frequencies don't carry well over distances and the wired/optical backbones need to be in place.

It's sort of a chicken and an egg problem though right? There's not enough demand to build out speedy rural infrastructure so it doesn't get built, and because it doesn't get built, nobody makes applications which would really increase demand.

Not really, you can build the applications for the billions of people who live in dense cities, and then let the rural population demand access to the same.

Re: Ask HN: What do you think of the Google Stadia?

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Post by [deleted] »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #22
Xelbair wrote: post #17

Absolutely pointless. without client and server side input prediction you get huge input lag - way above tolerable ranges. with input prediction you get annoyed players that their character doesn't do what they want. Plus with multiplayer games you get extra lag on top of that. And lets not forget about local input lag. Transfer speed requirements are sky-high. Also - can i just own something? i don't want to perpetu…

It's input compensation they need, not input prediction. In other words, for every button press sent to the server, it should also send the frame time the user was seeing when they pressed the button. The server then applies hit detection / whatever for the input at that time rather than the current time. So you'll see a visual glitch as the world jumps to "what should have been", but that's a lot better than you mis…

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Re: Ask HN: What do you think of the Google Stadia?

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Post by quakenul »

dyeje wrote: post #24

I don't think it will work for multiple reasons. 1. Google doesn't have gaming in their corporate DNA. They will commit a bunch of faux pas that will alienate the gaming community. 2. Streaming games adds latency. Latency problems ruin the experience. 3. Gamers are a very fickle community and if they don't feel your company 'gets' them, they will not engage with you.

I don't think any of these points are particularly strong, and yet any bet against a new venture is a safe bet, because failure is the overwhelmingly likely outcome.

Re: Ask HN: What do you think of the Google Stadia?

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

gzeus wrote: post #3
RandomGuyDTB wrote: post #2

I don't think gaming needs another competitor, much less one that already has a history of booting its rivals and starting monopolies. Steam is good enough for me. The thing that's horrific to me is the quoted 20GB of data transferred per hour during playtime. I don't have data limits so it doesn't affect me too hard but my Internet connection hovers right around 5mbips per second. I live in a smallish city in Maine.…

I think they are only focused on the future where almost everyone has fast internet. I like the that they don’t have any load time. It doesn’t look like it’s going to support most games any time soon. It’s going to be mostly hype for a year , I feel.

> I think they are only focused on the future where almost everyone has fast internet.

I don't think that future exists, and I don't think Google thinks it does either considering they abandoned the effort to make it happen.

Re: Ask HN: What do you think of the Google Stadia?

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Post by Kiro »

dyeje wrote: post #24

I don't think it will work for multiple reasons. 1. Google doesn't have gaming in their corporate DNA. They will commit a bunch of faux pas that will alienate the gaming community. 2. Streaming games adds latency. Latency problems ruin the experience. 3. Gamers are a very fickle community and if they don't feel your company 'gets' them, they will not engage with you.

John Carmack is of a different opinion regarding 2.
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