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Ask HN: How to cope with job hunting and depression?

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Re: Ask HN: How to cope with job hunting and depression?

#31
NEVER GIVE UP! I will not go into how precious life is, although it really is!

I am in your situation as well for almost over an year now. Been through 2 severe panic attacks and 2 times at the ER. Nothing helps more than hope and doing something (Don`t drinkg though!)

There was a time I was applying for jobs as a Job... 9 to 5. Drinking heavily beer and coffee. My wife left and I fucked up so much more than the stupid concept of a "job". I didn`t give up... I set down and drew a line... than set priorities and Goals. I started looking less into Job openings, started working out (not in the gym, nature is the cheapest gym - running, hiking etc.) Than when in a month or two when my mind and organism cleared from the "fog" innovative ideas started to come. In another half an year (a bit financial help here from parents and friends) and after some reading, I started my own Business.

In another 1 year, found the most amazing woman...

What I am trying to say is that EVEN when you can`t see any light, it doesn`t mean there is none! You are in a "storm" right now, and as every storm it will pass! Sometimes the only but vital effort one Needs to do is to Keep it all togehter! Don`t give up, and try to twist your mind into a positive loop by Setting small Goals and making small steps. You will get there!

Re: Ask HN: How to cope with job hunting and depression?

#32
For depression, try https://www.7cups.com or https://www.talkspace.com, my therapist on 7cups helped me get through some really tough times. Also their community is amazing. I highly recommend trying them.

As for the job search, it takes a long time to get a new job, the fact that you're getting interviews is a victory of its own, just keep at it. Also if you're having trouble finding a job in a particular city, you could try expanding your search, like in different a city or country. You could also try applying for remote jobs, those are becoming increasingly popular and also pay quite well. Hope that helps, please feel free to dm me @amadkn on twitter if you want to talk. No one should deal with depression alone.

Re: Ask HN: How to cope with job hunting and depression?

#33
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great advice. I would add to this - Better` is quite subjective & varies from situation to situation. People can be better or worse in a lot of attributes when compared to one another. Being depressed won't help. You really really need to figure out why you're not being selected. Are you asking for too much salary? Applying to the wrong roles? How does your resume look? Have you got some feedback from the interviews…

There is no switch to "turn off" depression. It's a long process. What has worked for me in the past is connecting to others. Take a class, refresh skills, join an outdoor club, find a meetup, either a programming meetup or even something else. Exercise is a cheap form of anti-depressants. I have also found finding or hiring a job coach (offering a post hiring fee) to be VERY helpful. Trying to lift oneself out of a…

It is possible to "turn it off"

As you say, doing new hobbies, meeting people etc. They all trigger the "honeymoon phase". Your body literally creates chemicals that turn off any depression.

The key would be for depressed people to keep changing it up and finding things they like instead of sticking with the same.

The vicious cycle occurs because a depressed person doesn't bother looking for anything, so nothing changes, so they get even more depressed.

Even if they do become self aware enough in order to make a change (as you did), they still have the mindset that "I'm doing this because I am depressed".

This means they are still not enjoying the full experience of life, as they are predisposed to failure.

A depressed person requires a hard emotional trigger to "snap" them out of it, something unexpected, something that invokes basic instincts, something that even their depressed mind can't ignore.

A simple example could be triggering survival instincts invoked by physical pain - this causes the body to take over and force the brain to engage.

The brain is no longer catatonic - it is forced to deal with the issue at hand (survival). There is no room to "be depressed". It's act or die.

This invokes instincts that activate the adrenaline in the system.

After the danger is resolved, the body relaxes and there is relief, adrenaline high. The brain realizes "hey that wasn't so bad". This high is what needs to be exercised again.

This activates the mind to start finding ways to get that high.

TIL: Depressed people need to get their first hit on getting high on life.

Re: Ask HN: How to cope with job hunting and depression?

#36
Where are you at right now? Depending on your location, they might not value "young" talent as much (which seems to only be a SV thing). I've worked in the east coast and Texas and there are plenty of jobs for more experienced people. But on a personal note, the harder you work to overcome your circumstances, the stronger you will become in the future, you will become more resilient to failure, you will have better coping strategies due, and you will definitely be better at not stressing over things you can't help in life. Think of this period as training to become that guy.

Re: Ask HN: How to cope with job hunting and depression?

#38
post #26

If it is of use, feel free to email your resume and I will provide a free 1-2 page review (OP only). I run a professional services firm creating them, LinkedIn Profiles and interview coaching for global job seekers.

I strongly suggesting getting a pro to look over your resume and linked in profile.

Years ago I having problems finding a job. I have a friend who did resume editing on the side. He tore my resume to shreds, but his suggestions help. I started getting interviews within the week.

Thanks for being a good guy and offering to help the OP.

Re: Ask HN: How to cope with job hunting and depression?

#39
In which part of the World are you located? A solution to get over your nightmare may be to move somewhere else where competition doesn't exist. Apply where the barriers of entry are lower because of a lack of candidates available around.

This will help you get back to a stable state where you'll be able to slowly work your way back "up". People who do that usually end up way higher that originally planned, when they fight back after a good recovery. You need a change of scenery.

Re: Ask HN: How to cope with job hunting and depression?

#40
My wild advice would be to try vacations for a while in some cheaper country and focus on your well being(relax, work out, play games, talk to stragers, take dance classes, whatever you like) and see how nice life is.

Having job isn't life goal, don't end it before realising this.

BTW if you feel depression/anxiety it's good to supplement magnessium, vit D and also check testosterone level.

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