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Re: Ask HN: What things have richly rewarded the time invested in mastering them?

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I’m still very much in the earlier stages of learning, but I’ll say negotiation. Recognizing that virtually any situation involving an “exchange” between two interested parties can become a negotiation has been a great insight into control for me.

People often think of negotiation as business, however it can be much more personal than that and can be very useful for your interpersonal relationships as much as it can be for your professional relationships.

Understanding how you can leverage another person’s empathy (and your own) in your favour without exploiting the other person is tremendously valuable whether you’re trying to get your kid to eat their vegetables or trying to convince a terrorist organization to free their hostages.

I’ve learned a few simple techniques that have honestly improved my ability to not only negotiate but communicate and understand people better in general.

I bought Chris Voss’ book on negotiating and it’s been really pivotal for my understanding of, well, humanity to a certain extent. Highly recommend it to anyone who wants to make a stronger person out of themselves.

No affiliation with the book btw but I’m a huge fan of the author as a result of his book.

Re: Ask HN: What things have richly rewarded the time invested in mastering them?

#33

Learning Photoshop. My photo restorations: http://imgur.com/a/uzUzP http://imgur.com/a/BuwKp http://imgur.com/a/q61eH http://imgur.com/a/1lp9O http://imgur.com/a/OyMWI http://imgur.com/a/iVhUq http://imgur.com/a/4zv43

Wow that's amazing! Good job :)

Re: Ask HN: What things have richly rewarded the time invested in mastering them?

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Cooking. I am not a chef, but I have spent the time and effort to be able and willing to tackle nearly any recipe in the cuisines I'm familiar with. More importantly, I've made my wife, family, friends, strangers, and myself, happy at my table and via gifts of food. In terms of books, the biggest difference-makers have been 'The Way to Cook', Julia Child, 'The French Laundry Cookbook', Thomas Keller, et al, and 'The…

I was going to say the same thing! For me it is baking/making bread, but cooking generally is rewarding and a practical skill.

Re: Ask HN: What things have richly rewarded the time invested in mastering them?

#36

Learning Photoshop. My photo restorations: http://imgur.com/a/uzUzP http://imgur.com/a/BuwKp http://imgur.com/a/q61eH http://imgur.com/a/1lp9O http://imgur.com/a/OyMWI http://imgur.com/a/iVhUq http://imgur.com/a/4zv43

That is impressive, how long does it take to restore a typical photo?

Re: Ask HN: What things have richly rewarded the time invested in mastering them?

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I’m still very much in the earlier stages of learning, but I’ll say negotiation. Recognizing that virtually any situation involving an “exchange” between two interested parties can become a negotiation has been a great insight into control for me. People often think of negotiation as business, however it can be much more personal than that and can be very useful for your interpersonal relationships as much as it can…

> I bought Chris Voss’ book on negotiating and it’s been really pivotal for my understanding of, well, humanity to a certain extent. Highly recommend it to anyone who wants to make a stronger person out of themselves.

For people wondering, Chris Voss is the former lead international kidnapping negotiator for the FBI. Here's a podcast where he talks about negotiation [0] and the link to the book the above comment refers to [1]. His talk at Google about the same subject might be interesting too [2].

[0] https://fs.blog/2018/01/chris-voss/

[1] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32444582-never-split-the...

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guZa7mQV1l0

Re: Ask HN: What things have richly rewarded the time invested in mastering them?

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Penmanship & Calligraphy. One of my non-computer fascinations that turned out to be spiritually rewarding. Once one gets past shallow modern trends, there's so much to discover, study, learn, practice, master and let loose with. It's really fun. I don't necessarily ship or sell anything, at least as of yet, but still the act itself is kinda like meditation.

I started to get into calligraphy. I got quite good at copperplate/engrosser's script (I was never quite clear on the difference). My script was good enough that people thought it was printed. But I just don't know where to take it from there. I feel like I need a good book on the subject. Like The Art of Computer Programming, but for calligraphy. I've been unable to find such a book, though. Any suggestions on how progress?

Re: Ask HN: What things have richly rewarded the time invested in mastering them?

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Typing. The bulk of my communication is text, and being able to type fast and effortlessly makes basically my whole life easier.

Definitely this. The majority of people I've worked with over the years have used a keyboard as their main interface but simply do not know how to use it. Learning the keyboard does more than just making typing faster. It enables you to banish the rat and achieve far greater overall efficiency.
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