Live data from Hacker News

Ask HN: Have you built a house?

news.ycombinator.com

31–40 of 229 posts

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

#31
post #6

I've built a house, in the sense that I was working as the general contractor and hiring out crews and tradespeople to do the actual work. My involvement differed anywhere between hire-a-crew and pay them when they are done down to doing certain things myself 100%. A few takeaways: - Things seem simple from the outside, before you do them for the first time. They are in actuality quite complicated. Even something as…

Did you spout that last paragraph off the top of your head? That is a staggering bullet list that I suspect has several layers of unwritten sub-bullets. I have a whole new respect for home builders.

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

#34

I've had a custom house built by a very well-respected GC in my region. Despite not doing any of the actual labor, I'm doing an incredible amount of work. Since it's a totally custom house, I spent all weekend for five or so months going to supplier offices to pick out materials, designing tile work & shelving, tweaking layouts, etc. Since the project has taken so long, I've had to deal with suppliers running out of…

I think it's time to reassess that "well-respected GC in my region" statement.

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

#35
post #31
post #6

I've built a house, in the sense that I was working as the general contractor and hiring out crews and tradespeople to do the actual work. My involvement differed anywhere between hire-a-crew and pay them when they are done down to doing certain things myself 100%. A few takeaways: - Things seem simple from the outside, before you do them for the first time. They are in actuality quite complicated. Even something as…

Did you spout that last paragraph off the top of your head? That is a staggering bullet list that I suspect has several layers of unwritten sub-bullets. I have a whole new respect for home builders.

if we knew or cared about anything like that almost 3 decades ago when we were building houses in Siberia as summer student jobs i don't think we'd have been able to build anything :) (just out of curiosity checked couple years ago using satellite photos - the houses are still there :) Though right now i'm very happy knowing that my townhouse meets all the CA tough building codes :)

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

#36
Have helped manage a few houses my father (A GC and finishing carpenter) has built to live in every 5-10 years.

Before I was allowed to get a computer or enroll in comp sci, my father made sure that I learned to work with my hands a little too, so I had to be Junior GC..

Strategic Lessons:

- If you're interested in building a house, it might help to hire a GC who builds a regular house for a percentage fee to manage the build, learn from them, and then build your own. Most will be very happy to teach. You get 2 tries at a house on fit and finish.

- When building new, getting a closed shell (foundation, framing, walls, roof) is the most urgent thing to allow inside work to commence regardless of weather. If this gets missed in a shoulder season and you plan on building through the winter, it will present challenges.

- You have to build relative to the neighbourhood value, not what you can afford to build due to managing it yourself. Exception is if you're going to live there for 20 years.

- Lining up and managing trades is the name of the game. The more you look out for trades to get in and out easily, and care about their work, their quality of work goes through the roof.

- I would start with remodeling / extending an existing house before going through a new house. New builds are cleaner in some ways, but you will get a taste if it's for you.

- Alternative building methods (concrete walls, 3D printing) can be expected to have unintended side effects to traditional house building you should.

- Be strategic where you can save and do things yourself, vs have things done. There's often enough margin in just helping with prep and cleanup along the way plus doing a few easy things.

- Build to sell - build in extra entrances that are separate for basement suites, etc.

Reality:

- You have to be around all the time. Always when you're not planning to. Plan that in your commute and coming and going. Always better to build as close as possible to where you live. If not, where work.

- Clean as you go. All the time. Trades behave better on a site that's meticulous.

- Finishing is 60% of the value of a house. Keep that in mind. Everything can become more affordable when building on your own because labour savings are there.

- Managing your project schedule and budget every few days as a first timer will help a lot.

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

#37
post #18

I have no affiliation with this YouTube channel, but here's a guy who does an entire in-depth series on how to build a house from scratch[0], from surveying the land, to getting permits, to pouring the foundation, and so on. Good way to spend a few hours on a weekend. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn4L_aJ1rV4&list=PLRZePj70B4...

This is an incredible series. The guy's breadth of knowledge is amazing! Super interesting stuff.

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

#39
Concrete structures are cool, but there are lots of issues. Insulation, water vapor / condensation, potential chemical reaction with other materials, difficulty of future modification ...

Get a copy of A Pattern Language by Christopher Alexander

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

#40
post #34

I've had a custom house built by a very well-respected GC in my region. Despite not doing any of the actual labor, I'm doing an incredible amount of work. Since it's a totally custom house, I spent all weekend for five or so months going to supplier offices to pick out materials, designing tile work & shelving, tweaking layouts, etc. Since the project has taken so long, I've had to deal with suppliers running out of…

I think it's time to reassess that "well-respected GC in my region" statement.

The not well-respected ones do a poor job that might look good from the outside, take your money and then disappear before you can sue them to get anything fixed.
Post reply on HN