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Ask HN: Do you get good applications from “Who is hiring?”?

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Re: Ask HN: Do you get good applications from “Who is hiring?”?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say that a job available on site OR remotely will attract more candidates than an on site only. To share my own experience, I've just bought an apartment and I've been thinking of working in a new company. I will automatically exclude non-remote positions (also the reason why I might leave my current company as the managers can work remotely no question asked but the devs can't...)

The most annoying ones are: - REMOTE (US West Coast Only) - ONSITE or REMOTE (onsite preferred)

There are also REMOTE (...possible after 6-9 months onsite) and REMOTE (1-2 days per week upon confirmation).

Re: Ask HN: Do you get good applications from “Who is hiring?”?

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Most of the people prefer remote these days.

Citation needed, that sounds like a very biased view of things.

I feel that there is a grain of truth here in pknerd's words. I don't have a citation, and sure, my story is just another anecdotal data point; but I'd like to add it here anyway and I suspect that there are many others like me.

I've been in software engineering for many many years and have worked for a number of employers in different parts of the world. The upshot of all that experience is that I know, with great clarity, what I want and what I do not want. I _have_ in the past, moved 17,000 km to take up a role but those days are behind me - there are only so many times you can pull off an enormous undertaking like that!

I've worked remotely (on and off) for years and have settled on preferring to stay remote for the remainder of my career. Whilst my life is pretty flexible and _could_ move pretty much anywhere, I have no desire to move near to the location of an employer for on-site work just because they happen to be in a particular location. However, I'm more than happy to put in the effort to visit occasionally, especially when starting a new project or a new team is being assembled.

I'm also practising Geographic Arbitrage which goes hand in hand with remote work and is a significant contributor to my financial survival strategy. Having lived in major world cities with grossly inflated asset bubbles (real estate), I know now that I will never do that again, and continue to actively move in the opposite direction.

The counter risk, of course, is that there are little or no employers situated away from "power house" cities, and that I'd be pooched if the remote work dries up. Fortunately, I've managed to get by so far.

What I genuinely find odd though, is the thought process of companies that are absolutely dead set against remote roles, but happily base their businesses upon large, successful and significant software projects like Linux or Rails or Node.js which are developed by huge distributed teams of remote software engineers living all over the world.

Re: Ask HN: Do you get good applications from “Who is hiring?”?

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Complete speculation, but may be that in general EU salaries are lower than US so not many ppl want to take that kind of cut despite differences in cost of living? Thats been a blocker for me in the past in moving back to the EU.

I second this.

Not only is the salary lower, but food etc. is way more expensive in general.

Re: Ask HN: Do you get good applications from “Who is hiring?”?

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I have had really good experiences with "Who is hiring" – from meeting interesting independent contractors that have heavily influenced projects to making my best technical hire ever.

When hiring I've used a mix of approaches – job boards, recruiters, HN. HN doesn't produce a lot of volume, but anecdotally, the candidates often get through initial screenings because they are generally both technically proficient and well rounded (from a stack standpoint). With other channels I find a lot of spam and/or mismatches on stacks.

Re: Ask HN: Do you get good applications from “Who is hiring?”?

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I looked at your comments to find your position posted at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15149582 . I'm not your target group, but still... Here's the introductory sentence: "Service Partner ONE is the technology partner for modern office management in Europe." OK, sounds fine. I don't know what office management is, but there are a few more sentences coming up that will surely explain. Next: "Our platform supp…

I would go a bit further and say that this is a terrible job description. The fact that it is so broad about the product let alone the position is a big red flag.

1) Either they can't describe what they are doing (bad, how do you find customers then?) 2) Or they do anything and everything (worse, if there is no goal, there can be no drive)

I want my work to mean something. I want to be able to say things like: "I help people to book taxis in an accountable way" (Uber)

Re: Ask HN: Do you get good applications from “Who is hiring?”?

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I looked at your comments to find your position posted at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15149582 . I'm not your target group, but still... Here's the introductory sentence: "Service Partner ONE is the technology partner for modern office management in Europe." OK, sounds fine. I don't know what office management is, but there are a few more sentences coming up that will surely explain. Next: "Our platform supp…

I would be most interested in how much they pay. For right money I could develop most boring apps that other coders would die of boredom reading specs.

Re: Ask HN: Do you get good applications from “Who is hiring?”?

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Yes, but a tiny percentage. A lot of spam. (_A lot of spam._) Tons of recruiting services. 80% of people obviously didn't read the post.

That said, I have hired a few amazing people, including some great technical leaders, that would have cost 15-20% salary to use a recruiter to find & snipe (this was before I had internal recruiters to help).

I use a separate email alias for it, and have a few canned responses (1/ you didn't read the job post 2/ I said we cannot do visas or major relocations, but you're in Greenland 3/ too junior, but please keep an eye on future posts) to keep things efficient.

Re: Ask HN: Do you get good applications from “Who is hiring?”?

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I looked at your comments to find your position posted at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15149582 . I'm not your target group, but still... Here's the introductory sentence: "Service Partner ONE is the technology partner for modern office management in Europe." OK, sounds fine. I don't know what office management is, but there are a few more sentences coming up that will surely explain. Next: "Our platform supp…

> OK, but I don't know what WeWork is

I agree with the rest of what you say, but WeWork is famous enough that they should be able to use it in a job posting, for example this article over WeWork [0] was on the front page 13 days ago

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17732332

Re: Ask HN: Do you get good applications from “Who is hiring?”?

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I'm looking for remote work only (family issues). I'd love to work in European hours. However, US companies pay 30-50% more. This way I don't even send any applications to the European ones. I'm not sure if you would consider me above medium (however during the last 16 years I learned a lot). The people I know who are much above medium have jobs. They don't look too much for them and are old enough to forget about tr…

There are also high taxes in Europe so you must account for that. Then Europe salaries look even less attractive...
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