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Re: Ask HN: Who is using Common Lisp?

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Post by xfer »

pjmlp wrote: post #20
TurboHaskal wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me the biggest pain is that there are plenty of libraries that simply don't "quickload" in LispWorks. I've never had that issue with SBCL, which about 70% of the community seems to use, followed by CCL. No surprise considering how gimped the personal edition is (which is even one major version behind). I wish they had a sort of revenue restricted Community Edition just like embarcadero is doing now. I'm old and I…

I see, yes you are right about the price. I tend to call the attention for these Lisps, just because it seems a large amount of developers aren't aware what they are actually loosing in productivity by sticking with their free (gratis) tools. Embarcadero is another good example, given what Delphi and C++ Builder were already capable of. Although here they have themselves to blame how Borland lost their hobby market e…

What productivity do you gain by using Lispworks? The only benefit is the cross-platofrm graphics api last i checked.

Re: Ask HN: Who is using Common Lisp?

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Post by jonjacky »

At the University of Washington Medical Center (UWMC) we are using a DICOM server written in Common Lisp [1]. DICOM is a network protocol used for medical images and other medical data. This was originally developed as part of the Prism radiation therapy treatment planning system [2][3], which was completely written in Common Lisp, and was used as the sole planning system at UWMC for many years.

1. https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=963921

2. https://www.ischool.utexas.edu/~ml/papers/lisp40yrs.pdf

3. https://www.redjournal.org/article/S0360-3016(96)00322-7/abs...

Re: Ask HN: Who is using Common Lisp?

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Post by abrax3141 »

A month ago I built an entire working MVP for a cloud-based biomedical knowledge management, discussion, and decision-making system, entirely in CL (ccl), using raw HTML, down to the metal, in a week. And we went from MVP to mid-VP (near beta) in another three days, and were running live user experiments at the end of that week. ~2000 lines of CL. One.5 weeks' work. MVP NLP and ontology management, discussion management, role management.

Yes, I'm for hire! :-)

ps. That was a month ago. What I've done in the meantime, aside from wind surf, is build the AI underneath that -- another 2000 lines of working CL. Lisp Rules!

Re: Ask HN: Who is using Common Lisp?

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Post by TurboHaskal »

xfer wrote: post #31
pjmlp wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see, yes you are right about the price. I tend to call the attention for these Lisps, just because it seems a large amount of developers aren't aware what they are actually loosing in productivity by sticking with their free (gratis) tools. Embarcadero is another good example, given what Delphi and C++ Builder were already capable of. Although here they have themselves to blame how Borland lost their hobby market e…

What productivity do you gain by using Lispworks? The only benefit is the cross-platofrm graphics api last i checked.

Aside from CAPI, I'd note the excellent platform support (traditionally one would use CCL as a free alternative as SBCL isn't quite there yet) and the possibility to deliver "tiny" executables due to tree shaking.

The class explorer is also excellent for navigating CLOS heavy codebases. Profiler and overall IDE experience is far better for anyone without Emacs Stockholm syndrome (which I do have btw).

Re: Ask HN: Who is using Common Lisp?

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Post by endswapper »

abrax3141 wrote: post #33

A month ago I built an entire working MVP for a cloud-based biomedical knowledge management, discussion, and decision-making system, entirely in CL (ccl), using raw HTML, down to the metal, in a week. And we went from MVP to mid-VP (near beta) in another three days, and were running live user experiments at the end of that week. ~2000 lines of CL. One.5 weeks' work. MVP NLP and ontology management, discussion managem…

What is the best way to contact you?

Re: Ask HN: Who is using Common Lisp?

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Post by jjtheblunt »

aidenn0 wrote: post #15

I want to echo Grue3[1] that the tooling around common lisp is amazing; some tools I've used are better at one level of abstraction, but none are as good all up and down the levels of abstraction. Very few languages (smalltalk comes to mind) have the culture of caring about tools. A lot of other features that are great about lisp have become mainstream in the 15 years since I learned lisp. Or to put it another way, p…

python friendlier? just kinda different, i'd say, like algol-ier

Re: Ask HN: Who is using Common Lisp?

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Post by abrax3141 »

mbrock wrote: post #29
nextos wrote: post #24

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I think it does! The whole Lisp desktop is a step closer now: StumpWM, Emacs & GuixSD.

It’s kind of funny that those all use divergent versions of Lisp... :)

Doesn’t matter. That’s why it’s called “Common” Lisp. Any code will run on any conformant CL.

Re: Ask HN: Who is using Common Lisp?

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Post by abrax3141 »

endswapper wrote: post #35
abrax3141 wrote: post #33

A month ago I built an entire working MVP for a cloud-based biomedical knowledge management, discussion, and decision-making system, entirely in CL (ccl), using raw HTML, down to the metal, in a week. And we went from MVP to mid-VP (near beta) in another three days, and were running live user experiments at the end of that week. ~2000 lines of CL. One.5 weeks' work. MVP NLP and ontology management, discussion managem…

What is the best way to contact you?

Post a gig (free!) on SFCL...uh, that's SF CraigsList (not SF Common Lisp :-) If it looks interesting, I'll answer it. If I don't, you're likely to get other reasonable folks answering it. (Only reasonable folks answer Lisp job ads, because only reasonable folks know Lisp; It's not like Python where kids who have one high school python course are applying for jobs!)

Re: Ask HN: Who is using Common Lisp?

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Post by abrax3141 »

abrax3141 wrote: post #38
endswapper wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the best way to contact you?

Post a gig (free!) on SFCL...uh, that's SF CraigsList (not SF Common Lisp :-) If it looks interesting, I'll answer it. If I don't, you're likely to get other reasonable folks answering it. (Only reasonable folks answer Lisp job ads, because only reasonable folks know Lisp; It's not like Python where kids who have one high school python course are applying for jobs!)

Haha...a friend of mine, reading the above over my shoulder, reminded me that there are, like, two complete a-holes over on comp.lang.lisp who long ago drove everyone else away. (Usenet is pretty much dead anyway, but these folks hastened the early demise of c.l.l as a useful forum, even before the rest of usenet folded to Stack Overflow.)

Re: Ask HN: Who is using Common Lisp?

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Post by ta46854884 »

abrax3141 wrote: post #39
abrax3141 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Post a gig (free!) on SFCL...uh, that's SF CraigsList (not SF Common Lisp :-) If it looks interesting, I'll answer it. If I don't, you're likely to get other reasonable folks answering it. (Only reasonable folks answer Lisp job ads, because only reasonable folks know Lisp; It's not like Python where kids who have one high school python course are applying for jobs!)

Haha...a friend of mine, reading the above over my shoulder, reminded me that there are, like, two complete a-holes over on comp.lang.lisp who long ago drove everyone else away. (Usenet is pretty much dead anyway, but these folks hastened the early demise of c.l.l as a useful forum, even before the rest of usenet folded to Stack Overflow.)

Christ, you sound insufferable. Arrogant dickhead.
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