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Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

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Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

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Audiobooks certainly feel like they have much worse retention. To solve this, whenever I listen to an audiobook now, I'll both buy it on Audible and on Kindle. Then, whenever I hear something particularly compelling/important, I quickly hop into the Kindle app on my phone and highlight it. If a book has whispersync[0] enabled this is especially easy. This, combined with having a workflow for consistently reviewing my…

This is what I do. I also will read the Kindle portion of book when I can, only listening to audio when I'm in the car or doing something with my hands. I'm also a heavy user of "skip back 30 secs" (the back button on my truck's steering column does this out of the box). If I find my thoughts wandering, I will skip back to a portion I remember, and listen again. If I find myself skipping back a lot, I'll listen to something else.

In my personal experience, audio has a lower retention rate compared to reading. However, you can train yourself to do better. The benefit is I can listen at 2x, and get a lot books in during my commute.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

#32
A lot of people are saying audio books have less retention (which may be true), but are you accounting for what you're doing while listening to them?

For example, if you read a book, chances are you're 100% focused on the book, probably sitting or laying down in a quiet room.

On the other hand while listening to an audio book you might be driving, running errands or cleaning. Most of that is probably on auto-pilot but I have to imagine trying to multi-task whatever you're doing while absorbing content is going to cause a huge hit to retention.

I think it's worth exploring the above because I find that other than first hand experience I learn best by watching videos. It could be someone talking into a camera, or just slides, but in both cases I feel like I retain information better than just reading. However in this case, I'm also 100% focused on the task as if I were reading. Most of those videos could have just audio and it's basically the same thing (comparable to audio books).

Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

#33
Overall my retention is currently higher for audiobooks just because I get through them much faster in comparison to physical copies. Also, I’m more likely to finish them - I will listen through boring sections, due to which I would probably put the physical book aside.

I can not imagine listening to technical books though (popular science seems to be fine, I’m listening to Walter Isaacson’s Einstein biography right now), the reader must be a fit (Stephen Fry is gorgeous); and I can only use the times when my head is not engaged otherwise (commuting, groceries, food, housework).

To those unaware: Spotify has a huge audiobook collection now. I wish they would add increasing playback speed as a feature, if readers are too slow my thoughts will wander. I also have an Audible subscription, they have a quite convincing library now.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

#34

I jump back and forth between Kindle and Audible versions of the same book frequently. Like others, I find that retention seems lower for audiobooks, usually because I am doing something (driving, walking, chores) when listening. I do, however, find strong associations between certain book passages and the places where I was when I heard them. Particular road trips are inextricably linked to particular books and vice…

I used to listen to lots of audiobooks b/c I had a long commute and I definitely agree that places get tied to specific passages. I believe it works both ways - re-reading books can sometimes make me remember the places and revisiting the places can remind me of the book that was playing. I'm now in Grad School and frequently listen to lectures during the drive. It makes test-taking interesting b/c some test questions cause me to think about geographic locations and then thinking about nearby geographic locations can sometimes remind me of the parts of the lecture that preceded or followed the material. Its the commuter's version of "Method of Loci".

Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

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http://jass.neuro.wisc.edu/2013/01/Group%203.Udomon.Final%20... - "An analysis of the test scores also indicates that visual stimulation is more effective than audio stimuli at achieving higher memory retention and recall (with a p-value http://www.youngscientist.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/... - "From the results, it was concluded that visual information is recalled the most effectively, followed by audio/visu…

One of my favorite features of Audible is the ability to rewind in 30 second segments. Very often I'll be listening to an audiobook and realize that I stopped paying attention, hitting the rewind button a couple times makes it super easy to get back to where you last payed attention.

When that happens to me, it's a sign that I'm listening at a rate that's either too slow or too fast.

I highly recommend speeding/slowing your audiobooks to the perfect point where your mind doesn't wander.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

#36

I can't use half the ebook readers because they come jam packed with ads for their app store, browser for distraction, frequent updates and attempt to push other apps on you. I will stick with my paperback books for retention.

Have you mostly used Android/Tablet based readers like the Kindle Fire or similar?

I have similar issues with lots of online services for more than just ebooks, but it seems like the e-ink devices (I use a Kobo) tend to be more minimal and focused on simple functionality.

Nothing will replace the smells and sensations of turning a physical page, but a basic e-ink device has made it much easier for me to read far more than I used to be able to (vastly more portable being the biggest improvement).

Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

#37

I can't use half the ebook readers because they come jam packed with ads for their app store, browser for distraction, frequent updates and attempt to push other apps on you. I will stick with my paperback books for retention.

So use the other half? Why do you need more than one anyway?

Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

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I've listened to a lot of audiobooks over the last several years. I've switched probably 80% of my "reading" time to audio so I can get more content (while driving, cleaning, laundry, etc.). In my case, retention is much lower for listened content compared to read content. So much so that I now only listen to things which I consider entertainment. For anything technical, or that I'd want to retain longer than a few w…

I switched to 90+% audiobook after being an avid reader my whole life. I think my eyes have gotten worse, so physically reading because tiring quickly.

The secret for audiobooks, for me, is to listen to them while walking. Currently doing about 50 miles / week, which gets me through 1-2 audiobooks (1.5x, but I rewind and replay a LOT).

I notice my attention is crucial, and varies depending on interactions while walking. When by myself, not crossing streets (down by the walking areas of my town), I can retain a ton.

YMMV, but for me the sweet spot of information consumption is while walking, so audiobooks + exercise beat reading, hands down.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

#40
I'm not aware of any study, but having listened to over a hundred audiobooks on the last few years, I would like to share my experience while listing to non-fiction.

My experience is that retention depends mainly on two factors: the amount of attention and quality of the reader. I prefer when the author is the one reading because many of them add comments and a special "energy" to the book.

I find the "car mode" on Audible very convenient to add bookmarks without disruption while I'm driving and I use at the gym as well.

Some books that I want to reference later I buy a paper-copy and mark with a highlighter on the same places I bookmarked on the Audible App.

While listening, the faster I play, the more attention I pay. I start at 2X and if I'm listening to the audiobook a second time, I can go up to 3X. 1X and 1.5X are for engaging parts or when I can't understand what is being said.

One thing I don't do is: listen while not able to pay attention. While dring it can be while going through a toll or navigating through unfamiliar streets.

With all said, the feature that I think is the most useful for retention is the Pause button. This way I can reflect on what I just heard and save the information on my brain's long-term storage.

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