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Ask HN: Why did you choose not to have children?

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Re: Ask HN: Why did you choose not to have children?

#31
I'm 42 and my wife is 43. We've been married 20 yrs and decided before we got married that we didn't want children unless we could come up with compelling reasons to do so. We never did.

We got crap from family, a few friends (good friends were fine about it) and, lots of strangers for whom it should have been none of their business.

Basically, when most people ask why, there's no answer other than infertility that results in anything other than them telling us we're wrong. So many people who have or want to have kids see voluntarily choosing not to have them as not just a personal choice, but as an affront to everything they believe in.

That's not even to mention those who want and can't have kids who have gotten really bitter when the topic comes up. I just avoid it whenever I can.

On the plus side, as we passed 40, I think people assume that we couldn't rather than we chose not to have kids and very few people ask anymore.

If you have or want kids and that makes you happy, wonderful. But, far too many people take what's a pretty longstanding decision as a challenge to convince us to change our minds.

Re: Ask HN: Why did you choose not to have children?

#32
I do not know the meaning of life. I do not what to perform a serious action without knowing the reason.

My mother is urging me to have a child. Her major argument is that when I get old, no one would take care of me. But I think that’s selfish thinking. The purpose of a new life shouldn’t be taking care of another person.

I’m impatient with children too. I stay away from relatives’ children during reunions. I hardly find joy interacting with them.

Re: Ask HN: Why did you choose not to have children?

#33
Reality for a lot of people: economic reasons. Even in the bay area.

You simply can't raise children in anything smaller than a 3 bedroom apartment or house. Furthermore, because of groceries and driving around, they effectively require a car. On top of that, at least one of the parents need to sacrifice most time between, say, 5pm and 8pm every day. More than just that before they go to school (and this will put strain on the relationship, for obvious reasons). I mean, perhaps if you limit yourself to just one you might make it work with a 2 bedroom place, but ...

So you need a lot more stuff, and you must work less ...

There's massive rewards too, of course, but ... you have a lot of people that really want children, but realize it would destroy them. If you're wondering why people don't have children, imho, mostly that question is answered if they invite you to dinner.

Re: Ask HN: Why did you choose not to have children?

#34
I started dating my now wife when I was 37 and she was 35. She had two kids who were 8 and 14. That was 7 years ago.

One of the first discussions we had was did I desire to have children "of my own". I said I didn't and she didn't want to "start over".

I love my step children and became very close almost immediately. I don't feel like I'm missing anything by not having my own biological kids.

But, at 37 - we married less than 8 months after we started dating - I knew I was selfish. Not financially, but I knew I wanted to have plenty of time to enjoy life with just my wife.

With kids that age, we've always been able to balance alone time and family time. We could leave our kids at home when we went out and even left them home alone over the weekend when my older child turned 16.

I'll be 46 when my younger child graduates. My wife and I have our whole life ahead of us.

I've never like babies. I wouldn't deal with babies in my own family until they were potty trained and talking. To me babies just limit what I can do in life and the freedom I enjoy.

Re: Ask HN: Why did you choose not to have children?

#35
I decided not to have kids because I could not guarantee that they would have as many opportinuties as had been provided for me.

The main reasons for this negative outlook were exponential population growth, the degrading environment and the threat of nuclear war. At best all I could see was hand-wringing in response to these challenges, in general most people chose to ignore them.

Maybe things are beginning to change, but not enough to guarantee that the next few generations will not experience a degraded quality of life.

Regrets? None. You can't choose your kids but you can choose to live as you wish without the risk of getting a 'bad egg'.

Re: Ask HN: Why did you choose not to have children?

#36
Late 30's, female, never wanted children.

When I was very young, that preference was inspired by a conscious rejection of the roles society had set for me ("wife and mother").

As an adult, that stance has weakened (if I'm choosing something because I want it rather than because someone's telling me too, it's still my choice). But I've come to believe that I would be a terrible mother. In part because I can't stand children and the noise they make; in part because I don't want them enough to be willing to make the sacrifices of time, energy, and other resources that are necessary to raise a child; in part because I'm both uninterested in and just plain terrible at nurturing.

If I had found a life partner who wanted kids badly enough, I might have had them. He would probably have to have committed in advance to being the primary caregiver, though. I'm much more comfortable in the role of breadwinner than nurturer.

Regrets? Not at all. Sometimes a vague concern about being lonely and without a financial safety net in old age, but that seems to me to also be a terrible reason to have children.

Re: Ask HN: Why did you choose not to have children?

#37
post #8

I'm in my mid-40's, and have yet to have any desire for children. My reasoning essentially has been that if I have children, they will either be like me, or not be like me. Neither of these outcomes encourages me. If they are not like me --- well, I don't think there is any shortage of people in the world that are not like me. Further, I think that lowering the human population is the best thing we can do to prevent…

If everybody who cares about overpopulation doesn’t have children, couldn’t that eventually “breed away” that trait and make the problem worse?

Re: Ask HN: Why did you choose not to have children?

#38
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I'm 30 and I have no regrets yet but the pressure is quite annoying...I guess that some people just want kinds, some don't and some want when it's too late. I hope I won't change my mind...

Pressure from family? Friends? Is this more keenly felt by women v men do you think?

The impression I get is that women are more expected to want children, so not wanting them is seen as more transgressive. Additionally, women have a shorter timeframe in which to have children, so the pressure intensifies after age 30 in a way that it may not for men.

However, parents want grandchildren from their male and female children equally, and pressure from friends is applied to a couple as a couple, not as individuals.

Re: Ask HN: Why did you choose not to have children?

#40
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You should be asking the opposite question. Why does anyone choose to have children? I would think that the opposite question does not need much explanation because we have some DNA programming to spread our genes and to "make offsprings". Assuming a healthy person and all the social/cultural/economical/philosophical influences aside if one decided not to have children, they must fight their own hormones in the fir…

Everything you've said is right, but giving in to biological imperative isn't really the same as choosing, is it?

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