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Ask HN: What can I do to acquire more freelancing projects/clients?

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Re: Ask HN: What can I do to acquire more freelancing projects/clients?

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Yes.

Did they come to you after you posted there, or did you go to them seeing their "Seeking Freelancer" listing?

I recommend doing both. It also pays (literally) to check the normal "who's hiring" thread as companies sometimes post contract opportunities there instead of in the freelancer thread.

Re: Ask HN: What can I do to acquire more freelancing projects/clients?

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When starting from scratch: post on Freelancer Seeking Freelance every month. You'll reach a groove once 120% of your referrals are word of mouth. The pendulum flips quickly between looking for clients and then getting a good rep. for doing good work and the clients flowing to you. Good work is hard to find. With that said, don't negotiate for the highest rate possible at the start. Getting a good rep. will get you b…

Does Freelancer seeking Freelancer actually work to find high paying contracts?

We've hired two freelancers from there. Only place I go now to find quality engineers.

Re: Ask HN: What can I do to acquire more freelancing projects/clients?

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Global rates for software developers are roughly about $25-$100 an hour. $100/hour is more for people with specialist experience in the US time zone. There are people willing to go cheaper than $25/hour, but you'll be a blur among people who are willing to work fo $4/hour. But usually there are local rates as well based on your country. These are somewhat pegged to the international rates past a certain level of qual…

It is not uncommon to charge $125-150/hr for high-end work on something as basic as configuring Wordpress sites. However, high-end means the focus gets drastically shifted from programming to figuring out what the client wants. That said, you can charge 250-500 as a freelancer for a few hours of consultation. Your rates should largely depend on: 1) How many hours the client intends on spending with you 2) Urgency of…

How do you maintain good conversion rates for charging as much as how you stated (such as your Wordpress example)? You run the risk of getting no offers. I think the difficult part about charging $125-150/hr, if you have never charged that much, is finding the clients that are used to paying those kinds of prices. You'll have to figure out how to convert talks into sales better before you can charge those prices.

For instance, the person who would want a site for $50/hr is probably not going to pay $125/hr. You could try with that person, but that would be pushing your luck. In this case they're not the right client for you.

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It is not uncommon to charge $125-150/hr for high-end work on something as basic as configuring Wordpress sites. However, high-end means the focus gets drastically shifted from programming to figuring out what the client wants. That said, you can charge 250-500 as a freelancer for a few hours of consultation. Your rates should largely depend on: 1) How many hours the client intends on spending with you 2) Urgency of…

How do you maintain good conversion rates for charging as much as how you stated (such as your Wordpress example)? You run the risk of getting no offers. I think the difficult part about charging $125-150/hr, if you have never charged that much, is finding the clients that are used to paying those kinds of prices. You'll have to figure out how to convert talks into sales better before you can charge those prices. For…

It comes down to not wanting to do WP work, so I charge a lot when someone wants it.

Sometimes I give it away ... for a client that is giving me a lot of business.

However, you can charge what is 150/hr for WP work if you have a good reputation and do good work. Literally EVERYONE who has any kind of money runs a charity, or is involved in a business or seven that needs a new homepage ...

This won't work if you're trying to cold call and get clients, you're right.

I started out at 50-70/hr programming. Some of my contracts now are only ~90/hr.

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How do you make clients on Shapr? It sounds like it's more about peer networking.

I connected with a few guys who run consulting shops, who outsource skills that they don't have in-house. Also, some recruiters who can get me contracts with big city corps. I've also gotten in touch with 2 startup founders who are looking for a CTO.

Nice. I'm giving it a go now. I met a few guys who could be friends but no clients yet, but I see the potential there.

Re: Ask HN: What can I do to acquire more freelancing projects/clients?

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Upwork is terrible. All of my work comes through personal contacts and relationships. IMO you've got to find a way to grow your network, be that meetups, events, etc. Get creative. It sounds like you have a lot of skill in your domain, maybe you could do a lecture somewhere and meet people that way. Relationships have a tendency of naturally generating work.

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It is not uncommon to charge $125-150/hr for high-end work on something as basic as configuring Wordpress sites. However, high-end means the focus gets drastically shifted from programming to figuring out what the client wants. That said, you can charge 250-500 as a freelancer for a few hours of consultation. Your rates should largely depend on: 1) How many hours the client intends on spending with you 2) Urgency of…

How do you maintain good conversion rates for charging as much as how you stated (such as your Wordpress example)? You run the risk of getting no offers. I think the difficult part about charging $125-150/hr, if you have never charged that much, is finding the clients that are used to paying those kinds of prices. You'll have to figure out how to convert talks into sales better before you can charge those prices. For…

Also, it's about how long the projects take. Sometimes $150/hr for Wordpress might just be done in a couple hours, with a template and an upload.

Re: Ask HN: What can I do to acquire more freelancing projects/clients?

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Looks like you've gotten some helpful tips so far. Here's a few things I can add.

As far as marketing yourself as niche vs. a generalist developer, it really depends on the types of clients and projects you are looking to work on. Being a generalist means you will qualify for more projects, and probably can create extra work for yourself since you can help clients with a broader range of development tasks. This will be useful if you want to help clients build and scale a product. Niche skills on the other hand means more niche marketability and searchability for clients looking for those specific skills.

When it comes to marketing yourself....keep blogging! Even if its only for 15 mins a day, write something. Share what you've been doing, answer questions for potential clients and other developers. You've already seen the pay off. Netowrk, online and off. Go to events and conferences, share your work and interests. Personal connections still count for a lot, and have a stronger tendency to lead to referrals.

Lastly, don't forget, as freelancer you are your own business. Some freelance platforms will take care of a lot of business aspects for you, but you still should be prepared/ knowledgeable about the following: -Terms of Service Contract -Your own (favorable) NDA -Time Tracking/Invoicing Software - Regular Review of Your Rate

Here's an article I wrote on landing clients as a freelance dev: https://www.codementor.io/blog/land-clients-freelance-develo...

Re: Ask HN: What can I do to acquire more freelancing projects/clients?

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Global rates for software developers are roughly about $25-$100 an hour. $100/hour is more for people with specialist experience in the US time zone. There are people willing to go cheaper than $25/hour, but you'll be a blur among people who are willing to work fo $4/hour. But usually there are local rates as well based on your country. These are somewhat pegged to the international rates past a certain level of qual…

It is not uncommon to charge $125-150/hr for high-end work on something as basic as configuring Wordpress sites. However, high-end means the focus gets drastically shifted from programming to figuring out what the client wants. That said, you can charge 250-500 as a freelancer for a few hours of consultation. Your rates should largely depend on: 1) How many hours the client intends on spending with you 2) Urgency of…

> If you save your client 1000 hrs of reporting work a year by developing them a custom solution, that is easily worth well over 100,000k for that client...

How do you get this information? Do you ask them how much time is spent on this task per person and their average hourly rate? Or do you go about finding this info out another way? Do you usually prepare a confidentiality agreement to discuss this? How do you bring it up without coming off so blunt?(as in not making it seem like you're using these numbers to figure out how much you can charge them)

Re: Ask HN: What can I do to acquire more freelancing projects/clients?

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When starting from scratch: post on Freelancer Seeking Freelance every month. You'll reach a groove once 120% of your referrals are word of mouth. The pendulum flips quickly between looking for clients and then getting a good rep. for doing good work and the clients flowing to you. Good work is hard to find. With that said, don't negotiate for the highest rate possible at the start. Getting a good rep. will get you b…

If you start out at a lower rate to build a good rep, how do you transition to a higher rate? If someone is referred to you from a previous client, I would think that a rate is shared and so they already have a number in mind for what you charge. Also, what about for recurring clients. If you gave them a better rate in the past and you have now bumped up your rate, do you honor your past rate or do you give them your new rate. For argument sake, let's assume this is not super frequent client that gives you stability, but maybe 15hrs of work every 3 months.
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