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Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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Post by cageface »

BadassFractal wrote: post #2

I'm earnestly appalled at how terrible this release has been. I've had an iPhone since 3GS and this is the first time I can remember I've really regretted an update. I've NEVER experienced my iPhone completely locking up for 5-10 minutes right in the middle of me trying to get work done, not allowing me to even force-reboot it. I have to power cycle it at least a dozen times a day now because it gets into a state whe…

Apple makes great hardware but they are falling farther and farther behind Android in software IMO. Modern Android on a good phone is just a smoother, more powerful, and more pleasant experience. I develop iOS apps for a living but I carry a Pixel 2 in my pocket and it's the best phone I've ever had.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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Post by planetjones »

arprocter wrote: post #3

Another for the list - the new Podcasts app is terrible Edit: it's as if they tried to make the interface less efficient than before - it makes it much more difficult to find subscribed to podcasts you haven't listened to in a while

I ditched that disgraceful application for downcast after it used my whole data allowance by not respecting a download on WiFi only setting. This was a previous iOS release, but once bitten twice as shy. I will never take another look at podcasts because it already cost me real money.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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Post by cisanti »

markpapadakis wrote: post #21

I use the iPhone 6s. It was responsive, and battery would last at least half the day just fine. Right after the upgrade, batter would last for maybe 1 hour, tops, 30 minutes on average. No minor upgrade fixed the problem, and apparently its a widespread one too. I am getting either the 8+ or the X, but I still think this is ridiculous at best.

Half the day was normal to you?! What are you guys doing with your phones, I use some cheap chinesium android and it gives me easy 2 days of battery if not more.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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Post by arprocter »

microtonal wrote: post #25
arprocter wrote: post #3

Another for the list - the new Podcasts app is terrible Edit: it's as if they tried to make the interface less efficient than before - it makes it much more difficult to find subscribed to podcasts you haven't listened to in a while

Unfortunately it has the same download bugs. Often when you press the download button, a podcast is marked again as not downloaded after downloading has completed. Overcast, on the other hand, works fine.

I've seen something similar - a few podcasts begin to download at once, progress indicators don't move above 0% on any of them, but then you hit play and it's already downloaded

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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Post by kiernanmcgowan »

I keep losing audio controls on my lock screen - not just navigation, even volume. Alarms have also started making no sound in the morning.

I've just picked up the habit of restarting my phone before I go to bed at night. I am just shocked that so many existing features got broken in odd ways.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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Post by pwinnski »

They need to hit a panic button inside Apple, and use the time they've bought themselves by introducing 2018's hardware in 2017 (as they claim the X does), and focus 100% on software.

I think giving iOS design to Ive was an error, but even if they don't agree with that, they need to focus on software very clearly and very publicly, making iOS 12 a release like the old Snow Leopard MacOS release. Focus on quality and performance, not new features.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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Post by leovander »

markpapadakis wrote: post #21

I use the iPhone 6s. It was responsive, and battery would last at least half the day just fine. Right after the upgrade, batter would last for maybe 1 hour, tops, 30 minutes on average. No minor upgrade fixed the problem, and apparently its a widespread one too. I am getting either the 8+ or the X, but I still think this is ridiculous at best.

>Right after the upgrade, batter would last for maybe 1 hour, tops, 30 minutes on average

What are you doing on your phone for that type of battery life? My phone (iPhone 6 Plus) has definitely been slower, but my battery life seems to be the same post upgrade. My phone is mostly idle throughout the day.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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Post by paulbeattie »

pwinnski wrote: post #36

They need to hit a panic button inside Apple, and use the time they've bought themselves by introducing 2018's hardware in 2017 (as they claim the X does), and focus 100% on software. I think giving iOS design to Ive was an error, but even if they don't agree with that, they need to focus on software very clearly and very publicly, making iOS 12 a release like the old Snow Leopard MacOS release. Focus on quality and…

I disagree. I agree they need to focus on quality and performance and be public that they're working to address it. But they also need to focus on adding new functionality to catch up with Android and other flavours of Android. The mobile market is moving a little too quickly for them just to sit still and not move for 2 years.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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Post by qwefadf »

planetjones wrote: post #27

I would have expected someone working at Apple who should be getting paid a high salary and writing software that is used by millions of people to have huge pride in their work. This means testing what they deliver in isolation and on integrated builds. So either apple staff are under too much pressure that quality control has gone out the window or they have the wrong kind of people. For instance are they missing th…

You must have never worked on a project with more than 10 people on it.
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