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Re: Ask HN: Why can't we stop hurricanes?

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Post by cholantesh »

oldandtired wrote: post #29
Vanit wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check out oldandtireds infallible series of calculations at realclimatechange.geocities.com

Funny, ha ha. If you actually took the time, about 2 to 3 hours of work and research, you would quickly see that the various scenarios proposed by these "real" climate scientists are a load of codswallop. As they say here at times, "Are you smarter than a fifth grader?" Well a fifth grader can do the calculations with but a little bit of help. If climate scientists were willing to call out their colleagues over the v…

Quite a lot of anecdota and question begging. Ho-hum.

Re: Ask HN: Why can't we stop hurricanes?

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Post by irongeek »

SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #15

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(energy) The energy needed to evaporate the water Harvey dumped on land (33 trillion gallons) is roughly: 40.65 kJ/mol (Latent heat of vaporization of water) * 210 mol/gal * 33x10^12 gal = 2.8x10^20 J. That's over half the entire world's energy consumption (not just electricity, also fuel for transportation and such) as of 2010. In about a week. And ignoring the energ…

We are working on it. http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Scientists-say-decline...

Re: Ask HN: Why can't we stop hurricanes?

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Post by oldandtired »

cholantesh wrote: post #31
oldandtired wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny, ha ha. If you actually took the time, about 2 to 3 hours of work and research, you would quickly see that the various scenarios proposed by these "real" climate scientists are a load of codswallop. As they say here at times, "Are you smarter than a fifth grader?" Well a fifth grader can do the calculations with but a little bit of help. If climate scientists were willing to call out their colleagues over the v…

Quite a lot of anecdota and question begging. Ho-hum.

I suppose there is a bit of anecdote, but then I generally find that anthropogenic climate change believers won't take up the energy equation challenge and so show that they are not willing to actually put any effort into the discussion.

Climate change deniers and anthropogenic climate change believers don't appear to have any inclination to do any sort of serious thinking about the subject. Both appear to take a very simplistic political view about the matter and just react along party lines.

Just as your comment shows little effort to even engage in dialogue.

Re: Ask HN: Why can't we stop hurricanes?

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Post by cholantesh »

oldandtired wrote: post #34
cholantesh wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite a lot of anecdota and question begging. Ho-hum.

I suppose there is a bit of anecdote, but then I generally find that anthropogenic climate change believers won't take up the energy equation challenge and so show that they are not willing to actually put any effort into the discussion. Climate change deniers and anthropogenic climate change believers don't appear to have any inclination to do any sort of serious thinking about the subject. Both appear to take a ver…

Your original comment has nothing meaningful to discuss. You don't present your data or analysis thereof, so we cannot discuss that. Here you call for 'serious thinking about the subject', but you engage in aggressive strawmanning (believe in the "dogma" of only anthropogenic causes for this climate change) and repeat the party line that climate models are all unreliable (this is a long-debunked falsehood). These are non-starters for meaningful dialogue.
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