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Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?

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Switzerland, Zurich is the only place in Europe where you can earn Bay Area salaries; I am a software engineer/tech recruiter hiring on behalf of a handful of Swiss companies. If you look for a job ( https://coderfit.com/openedjobs/ ), or know some engineeres who are, please reach out to me. You find my email in my HN-handle. (From an employee's perspective, Switzerland can be counted "as an EU country" since you can…

Hello, I just sent you an email.

Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Half of Russia's landmass(and almost all of its capital cities) is firmly in Europe, so why not?

Noone cares about landmass.

Most of Russia's population also in Europe.

What do you care about then? Exceptionalism?

Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Half of Russia's landmass(and almost all of its capital cities) is firmly in Europe, so why not?

Noone cares about landmass.

But major cities, and therefore most of the workforce, are in Europe. I mean what else, are you going to make the argument that Russia belongs in Asia more than in Europe?

Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?

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Switzerland, Zurich is the only place in Europe where you can earn Bay Area salaries; I am a software engineer/tech recruiter hiring on behalf of a handful of Swiss companies. If you look for a job ( https://coderfit.com/openedjobs/ ), or know some engineeres who are, please reach out to me. You find my email in my HN-handle. (From an employee's perspective, Switzerland can be counted "as an EU country" since you can…

I would disagree. Zurich does indeed pay very well, but it's very hard to get a job there, and salaries are only competitive with the Bay Area at lower levels. That means it's possible to find a job that pays 100k, but 300k compensation packages are far, far more rare than in the Bay Area. I don't know any company apart from Google that pays that much for senior engineers. I tried to get a job there about 8 months ag…

There are a few consulting companies doing project work that hire a good amount of people. (However none are even close to you >100 / year number) And also, it will be pretty hard to get near the 200k mark in Zurich if you're not at either a bank with a very specific expertise or at Google.

Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?

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Can't open the doc because it's blocked by my employer. But generally the developer wage is very low in Europe compared with US(Bay area).

AFAIK London have the highest salary among european countries, usually handed out by Investment banks and other financial service companies.

In London a tier 1 bank's VP developer will typically get £90k-110k base, plus 15-40% bonus. If you work for a hedge fund, the base is typically 10% higher with 10-20% more bonus. To get a VP job in a bank you usually need 7 year+ experience after graduation.

In contrast the big tech companies in london pays about 10-20% less base salary than banks, far less cash bonus. But depends on which one you are working for, the RSU could be either similar to the states side or a bit less. The signon bonus is usually quite low as well.

Startups in London have very low pay, typically 50-60% of your market value in a bank.

So if you are a top developer with 15 years+ experience, works for a top hedge fund in London, you'll most likely take home < £200k, which is like $260, that's only about average wage for a google senior developer.

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