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Re: Ask HN: What to do about a boring job ?

#31
Welcome to my club. Like others are saying, use the time to develop.

After a lengthy period of me asking about what my duties were and if anything was written down and what various policies were, a senior coworker simply said "Read. Buy some books and read." I spend about one hour of the day on getting real work done, another hour or two on moving things through the idiocracy, and the rest of the day is spent on Pylons documentation. :D

Re: Ask HN: What to do about a boring job ?

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If the workload isn't much, can you work on your side project during the day after you've gotten your work responsibilities taken care of (or while you're waiting)?

Since this would involve getting a signed letter from the company stating that the company does not own work you do for your side project while you're at work, it seems unlikely that this is an option.

Yeah that is a risk. But if they're unaware that he's lightly tasked, would they be likely to realize that he's working on a side project 6 hrs a day?

Re: Ask HN: What to do about a boring job ?

#33
You say "boring", I am going to assume that is accurate. ("Overruled by idiots" isn't boring, it's frustating, and I'm assuming that while that may annoy you it is not the core problem.) Try to automate away the boring; its what software engineering is for. If you're writing the same code over and over again, that means it's ripe for refactoring.

If this doesn't apply to you, well, I'm sure somebody reading will find it helpful. If you're a "software engineer" and writing the same code every day, stop! Don't do that. It's bad engineering. Write better abstractions. You'll learn something.

Re: Ask HN: What to do about a boring job ?

#34

If you had a heart attack, came to in a hospital bed, would you rip out the IV, get dressed and go to work??? Didn't think so. So you CAN SWITCH, it's just that you've become attached to your present circumstances and are not prepared to break free. So stop killing yourself, quit and do whatever it is that you can contribute greatest value by.

That's a rather extreme point of view. There might be contractual obligations for him to stay (being sued isn't nice even if it won't kill you) or personal reasons (as stated in the edits), family, friends and loved ones. "Breaking free" from a family is not what most people want to do.

Re: Ask HN: What to do about a boring job ?

#35
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I believe your problem is that you cannot switch, not that the job is boring. I would try to solve that problem.

Is it possible the OP 'cannot' (or more specifically does not want to) switch because they're waiting for options to mature, or something similar?

That's one reason I've seen people stick out jobs for a few more months.

Re: Ask HN: What to do about a boring job ?

#36
I've never tried them, and I'm not even sure how I feel about them, but you might want to try some of the 'Executricks' mentioned in this article:

http://blog.trailmeme.com/2010/04/four-hour-workweek-or-exec...

" “retire at work,” develop an under-the-radar personal brand, and achieve covert lifestyle design."

Re: Ask HN: What to do about a boring job ?

#37
Change the reason that you can't switch. I can only think of two legitimate reasons.

1) Switching requires moving to an entirely new town where you have no friends and no family. I'd double check that this is actually true and start working on building up a social network in a different metropolitan area if this were the case.

2) Immigration reasons.

Anything else? Options are never a certain "win" (think about lack of an exit, reverse splits, stock taking a dive). Worried about what your resume will look like? Worry less about your resume, worry more about yourself. Worried about loss of income? Don't just quit the job, search passively. "Counted on" to ship a product? Announce your departure in advance (more than the usual two weeks), hand your responsibilities over to others. Starting bonuses you will have to pay back? Money isn't worth not having something to wake up for in the morning.

So, honestly, switch. However, before you make the switch, very carefully think what is that you will be looking for in your next position and how to verify that it provides that.

People claim that you should "work to live" not "live to work". I call bullshit. Your work consumes plurality of your day and majority of your own waking hours. When I feel underused, micro-managed or otherwise unhappy at work, it means I am not looking forward to waking up in the morning. Personal projects are important (and I try to have several even when I am absorbed in interesting work), but they happen at the end of the day when you've already given up your best hours.

Re: Ask HN: What to do about a boring job ?

#38
I think some other points to reflect upon:

...but it's more because of their inexperience than anything else.

Is that really true? Do you know more about the business than they do? Can you manage a team better? Do you bring up challenges to them, or just scoff and think they're stupid. Hacking is not just manipulating code. Could you start your own company and out do the current company?

I was expecting progress, instead I find my judgement being overruled by less experienced people

Why are you being overruled? Is it emotions based? Title's based ("I'm SENIOR engineer..")? Where's the logic, analysis, and/or data to prove otherwise? Why can't you sell your idea to others?

I guess it's all about making lemonade out of lemons.

I understand your grievances all too well, but yes; sweet, sweet lemonade.

Final thing is that I think it's better to communicate how you feel about your situation to your supervisor-type. If the they don't feel like they need to make a change, and you don't want to be there, easy solution.

Re: Ask HN: What to do about a boring job ?

#40
I would start looking at building systems that could be used internally. If you are being overruled, you might as well put some time into something useful. I don't know exactly what your company does, but you might want to look at building a: - CRM system - Specialized Bug Tracker - Continuous Integration Software - Build a Test Harness

I know these system exists, but if you have time it is good experience. Also, ideally, you should work on things that you can take with you when you leave. However, this is usually not possible. I have had friends who built open source projects at home. They then convinced their boss to use it and contribute to the project. If you keep your mind open, I am sure you can think of some creative ideas.

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