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Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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Saying those things about Muslims, Mexicans and all the other dumb shit (you go Google it yourself) makes him worse than Bush or Obama. But not as bad as Clinton. Those vicious wars in the Middle East continued and got worse on her watch. In fact, according to the emails leaked by Wikileaks, she actively solicited payments from the Saudi and the Qatari government whilst she was representing the US as Secretary of Sta…

Just because he said some bad words doesn't make him worse than Obama and Bush. Let's wait and let the guy do his job and then we can comment based on his actions as president. But having people spamming the net with stupid stuff like moving out of the country is becoming ridiculous.

They aren't just bad words.

How must it feel to be a child growing up in a country where the president has demonized you, your whole family and heritage? That must influence how a person sees themselves in the world.

There will definitely be long lasting psychological consequences at minimum.

Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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Latinos who are US citizens have nothing to worry about YOU ARE RIGHT! Why do the ones that are here illegally have right not to be threatened? They are breaking the law and hurting our citizens. We have to draw the line somewhere. The majority of Trump supporters are not full of hate, they are just tired of being taken advantage of

Unless they have parents or other relatives who aren't officially allowed to be here. There are a lot of people in that situation. Deporting everyone who's in violation of immigration rules would involve splitting up an enormous number of families, and gut whole sections of the economy. > The majority of Trump supporters are not full of hate, But it's not Trump supporters who are now running the country. It's Donald…

>...and gut whole sections of the economy.

And those jobs will now go to Americans who needs a job.

Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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LGBTQ people are still either men or women, so they are always entitled to their rights as men or as women. Do you mean that because they label themselves LGBTQ they have MORE rights than "normal" people? How shameful of them of having and keeping more rights! They should be the first to be wanting to relinquish them!

>so they are always entitled to their rights as men or as women. Not if the supreme court overturns the previous ruling on gay marriage.

Trump said he's "NOT going to try to overturn it. The Supreme Court have already ruled, so let's leave it be."

Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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> What's the worst that it will happen to you? To most people on HN? Nothing. To women? Losing agency over their bodies. To black people? Losing the right to vote. To LGBTQ people? Losing a lot of rights. etc.etc.

>To black people? Losing the right to vote.

What? What policy is this?

Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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Unless they have parents or other relatives who aren't officially allowed to be here. There are a lot of people in that situation. Deporting everyone who's in violation of immigration rules would involve splitting up an enormous number of families, and gut whole sections of the economy. > The majority of Trump supporters are not full of hate, But it's not Trump supporters who are now running the country. It's Donald…

>...and gut whole sections of the economy. And those jobs will now go to Americans who needs a job.

A lot of Germans didn't do too badly out of Kristallnacht either. If you think that putting people in camps and spitting up families is a good way of lowering unemployment then, well, we will soon see how that works out. I hope that you will be held accountable for your views when the US returns to sanity.

Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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post #36

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>...and gut whole sections of the economy. And those jobs will now go to Americans who needs a job.

A lot of Germans didn't do too badly out of Kristallnacht either. If you think that putting people in camps and spitting up families is a good way of lowering unemployment then, well, we will soon see how that works out. I hope that you will be held accountable for your views when the US returns to sanity.

No one is getting sent to concentration camps. People who are here illegally, especially criminals, are just being sent back to their home country.

Remember, it's the United States of America, not the United States of Earth. We shouldn't have to be responsible for citizens of other countries. It's time for other countries to start taking care of their own citizens too. Why should we have to take care of citizens of all those other countries? Maybe it's time they get their own Trump, so they can Make Their Countries Great Again too.

And it's not like they can't come back. They can come back, but they have to do it legally, through the Legal Immigration Process, like everyone else.

There are millions of legal immigrants waiting in line to get into the United States. Why should illegal be able to cut straight to the front of the line? That is not fair to the legal immigrants who have been waiting in line for months or years.

Not only that, what Trump is doing is nothing new. Did you know that Obama deported more than 2.5 million illegal immigrants?

And George Bush deported 2 million illegal immigrants.

Trump is just continuing what Obama have been doing.

Of course, it would be great if the United States have enough money to take care of everybody in the world, but... we have to be realistic.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-num...

Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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>so they are always entitled to their rights as men or as women. Not if the supreme court overturns the previous ruling on gay marriage.

Trump said he's "NOT going to try to overturn it. The Supreme Court have already ruled, so let's leave it be."

It's not up to Trump. It's up to whichever conservative justices he may end up appointing to the supreme court.

Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of Germans didn't do too badly out of Kristallnacht either. If you think that putting people in camps and spitting up families is a good way of lowering unemployment then, well, we will soon see how that works out. I hope that you will be held accountable for your views when the US returns to sanity.

No one is getting sent to concentration camps. People who are here illegally, especially criminals, are just being sent back to their home country. Remember, it's the United States of America, not the United States of Earth. We shouldn't have to be responsible for citizens of other countries. It's time for other countries to start taking care of their own citizens too. Why should we have to take care of citizens of a…

> People who are here illegally, especially criminals, are just being sent back to their home country

There is no way of deporting millions of people without processing them through camps or detention centers of some sort.

> They can come back, but they have to do it legally, through the Legal Immigration Process, like everyone else.

Which visa would a typical Mexican person apply for to immigrate to the US legally?

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