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Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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Hi Guys, I am the cofounder of Codeanywhere.com , so I can't say we are the best, but I would definitely appreciate it if you tried us out. We use Codeanywhere to actually build Codeanywhere; frontend, backend and even mobile. Also I always love to hear feedback.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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If you set up a node.js project with Webstorm through the Webstorm UI and deploy with a plugin or built in feature you've pretty much get the most fully integrated IDE there is for node projects. It has testing built in, debugging inside the IDE, dynamic updates your browser, supports a ton of JavaScript libraries and npm as well as React and ES6/ES7 syntax. There's nothing else really like it. IntelliJ based browser…

Just wanted to note that every thing you mentioned is also in Cloud9 along with easy sharing of your sites with clients / workmates, collaboration and deploying to production with ssh workspaces. I switched from WebStorm (was using v9) to Cloud9 2 years ago and haven't looked back, for most Web Development jobs it makes more sense as you don't have to run a staging server to iterate on projects with clients (just sen…

I used Codebox as well, which was nice.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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Hi dakami, I think that SourceLair ( https://www.sourcelair.com ) could fit your needs. It let's you work on Node.js web applications in your browser and write both client side (including React JSX) and server side JavaScript. You also get an HTTPS public URL (subdomain) that works out of the box with Node.js, while it integrates with Git and GitHub in order to collaborate and lets you deploy your projects to Heroku…

I'm one of those who won't sign up to try something. Let me try without any friction. If I like it, I'll sign up to try more advanced features and if those fit my needs I'll probably purchase. If I sign up to try and it doesn't seem to be what was promised, it just feels like you are collecting my email.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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I would encourage you to check out Eclipse Che and Eclipse Orion. Eclipse Che will let you set up your own hosted workspace. Eclipse Orion is embedded within Che and provides language extensions for JavaScript and Web development. The technology are platform-centric, so there is a lot of embedded use by vendors packaging new products. They are the platform for SAP Hana, Samsung ARTIK IDE, OpenShift IDE, VSTS. There are various other projects happening within the Cisco, Salesforce, Mongo, Go, C++, SAS communities. Che and Orion have hosted versions run by Codenvy & Eclipse, respectively. Both services are free on the hosted front. I am the project leader for Che & CEO of Codenvy.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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post #5

If you set up a node.js project with Webstorm through the Webstorm UI and deploy with a plugin or built in feature you've pretty much get the most fully integrated IDE there is for node projects. It has testing built in, debugging inside the IDE, dynamic updates your browser, supports a ton of JavaScript libraries and npm as well as React and ES6/ES7 syntax. There's nothing else really like it. IntelliJ based browser…

If getting work done in a competent and featureful way matters (i.e. your time and ease of workflow is valuable to you), use a real IDE. Web IDEs are fun. The IDEs satisfy a subset of users' need to try something new built on technologies they're familiar with. They might feel warm and fuzzy hearing certain buzzwords that describe the project. But when it comes to getting shit done and having features that developers…

Yep, MS Office is still the only choice. No one use Google docs! And MS doesn't try to build web based IDE as well!

Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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Sublime Text 3 with a build system ( I simply press cmd+b to run a standalone javascript file there on the spot in ST3 ), and node-debug to debug standalone scripts (from the command line with iTerm). Works amazingly.

Everything else, command line. I used to be the biggest IDE fan ( had my Eclipse kitted out with 4GB allocated, all the hotkeys, etc ), but I don't do Java or AS3 programming anymore and even though sometimes i still find myself missing certain types of autocompletion, I've started to become jaded on the concept of IDEs as the command line is just so much more versatile and memory efficient. Sublime Text and the command line are really all you need these days, unless you're doing C#/C++ ( in which case I'd suggest Visual Studio ) or iphone native (Xcode obvi).

Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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post #5

If you set up a node.js project with Webstorm through the Webstorm UI and deploy with a plugin or built in feature you've pretty much get the most fully integrated IDE there is for node projects. It has testing built in, debugging inside the IDE, dynamic updates your browser, supports a ton of JavaScript libraries and npm as well as React and ES6/ES7 syntax. There's nothing else really like it. IntelliJ based browser…

Just wanted to note that every thing you mentioned is also in Cloud9 along with easy sharing of your sites with clients / workmates, collaboration and deploying to production with ssh workspaces. I switched from WebStorm (was using v9) to Cloud9 2 years ago and haven't looked back, for most Web Development jobs it makes more sense as you don't have to run a staging server to iterate on projects with clients (just sen…

> Cloud 9

I appreciate the work you guys do on Ace, it's amazing technology. I've built things with the Ace editor, but it's ridiculous to suggest than an editor that doesn't even edit the files on my computer has feature parity with Webstorm, an IntelliJ IDEA based editor. The PSI based AST system is smarter and better than Visual Studio and XCode, and IntelliJ IDEA is better technology than Apple or Microsoft was able to come up with for their own platforms. The number of plugins, the built in features, the fact it runs on my own computer make it unquestionably better than an editor that runs in a browser.

You disservice to a great web editor by suggesting it's better than a native editor like IntelliJ. I write front-end code for a living and in no shape or form would I ever want to use the Ace editor when I didn't have to. It works for sites like CodePen, GitHub and jsfiddle when they're needed, it doesn't replace writing code on my own computer.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If getting work done in a competent and featureful way matters (i.e. your time and ease of workflow is valuable to you), use a real IDE. Web IDEs are fun. The IDEs satisfy a subset of users' need to try something new built on technologies they're familiar with. They might feel warm and fuzzy hearing certain buzzwords that describe the project. But when it comes to getting shit done and having features that developers…

Yep, MS Office is still the only choice. No one use Google docs! And MS doesn't try to build web based IDE as well!

Google Docs is buggy and absolutely unusable on a slow or unreliable internet connection. If type-setting and page formatting matter, it is not a good solution. Reliability isn't up to par with their local application counterparts.

Yes, those options exist. They cover basic use-cases well, but come apart at the seams for others.

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