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Re: Ask HN: We found a cracked version of our software on the web, now what?

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post #244

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Lol everytime I read this argument I think of the software VirtualDJ. It was notorious for being the DJ software to use about a decade and a half ago as pirate copies were everywhere! Fast forward to today and you can read post after post from ex pirate user that's now a paid user. VirtualDJ have one of the more expensive software licenses on the market in that sector too. I wonder if many other software companies ha…

I'd imagine most of that is out of annoyance of dealing with pirate version or just them finally being able to afford it as it is now part of their job. I feel like easiest way to monetize apps like that would be free noncommercial license. Want to DJ your school party ? Go ahead, as long as nobody pays you it's fine, and if someone does, well, now you have money for license. You're also building potential user base,…

Yep, VirtualDJ has a free version. It doesn't let you use a hardware controller though.

https://virtualdj.com/products/virtualdj/price.html#comparis...

Re: Ask HN: We found a cracked version of our software on the web, now what?

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With newaudiotechnology.com we eventually switched to using USB sticks as dongles. The reason is that we noticed some paying users were cracking it, too, because our licensing system didn't allow dual boot or having a workstation and a laptop. But our licenses were supposed to be per user and people wanted to carry our software around with them. If setup correctly, the same USB stick is now used both as licensing don…

USB binding is fairly easy to bypass. Not script-kiddy level, granted, but it's still a matter of trampolining several API calls and then faking a presence of authorized USB device. At least on Windows. The reason yours wasn't cracked is the lack of interest on skilled crackers' part.

Or the fact that we updated often enough to make it annoying for crackers to keep up.

But mainly my point was that some of the "piracy" turned out to be paying users who had issues with our licensing system.

Re: Ask HN: We found a cracked version of our software on the web, now what?

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> First, people or companies using the cracked version of your software were never going to buy it. I've heard this before but I'm not convinced this is actually true. Why? Because I use Netflix instead of torrent sites, and just accept the limitations of that format. Programs are tools vs of entertainment, but I don't know that the human psychology actually changes. A neat trick they did was to introduce downloading…

Look at Adobe, for instance. A good portion of their user base got started using cracked copies of the software, as the price of something like the CS6 Master collection was well outside of the affordability of the average hobbyist. But some of those teenage hobbyists grew up to go to college to expand on their Adobe tinkering to becoming professionals that sneer at people who use non-adobe products because of the pr…

Adobe targets a very wide market, so it's okay to "let them learn on cracked PS" (like Microsoft did, actually), but in OP's case their case is obviously very narrow and this model, sadly, won't work..

Re: Ask HN: We found a cracked version of our software on the web, now what?

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Put some simple tracking in your software. Ping once a day when its running. If individuals run it, eh who cares. There's a not insignificant amount of people who want to see if the real version would actually work. And see if it'll run on WINE or whatever. Pissing off individuals is how you get to be known as bad. And then there's companies who run it pirated. Those are juicy targets. You dont even need to be mean.…

I love how WinRAR is doing this (showing messages). :) But it's obviously not that expensive and is a widespread tool.

Re: Ask HN: We found a cracked version of our software on the web, now what?

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post #108

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am I the only one that thinks that the remote possibility of showing this message to a legit customer by mistake outweights any benefit it could bring? you are not gonna guilt anyone into not pirating and if the message blocks or is annoying, crackers are gonna circumvent it just like they did the license check.

A lot of big players like adobe and microsoft don't seem to think this is a problem. In the past I have gotten cracks for legitimately purchased software from both because their licensing system is/was crap and would block access thinking my copy was not valid. Pretty bad when the pirated versions of your software work better than the legit copy.

> A lot of big players like adobe and microsoft don't seem to think this is a problem

Microsoft has bribed their way into having power of police in Argentina.

the can legally obligate you to give them a report of how many computers and what operating systems you are using and they can request a judge's order to enter your company with the police to audit your infrastructure if they think you are not telling them the truth.

I they will do this kind of stuff without fear of losing face I don't think they will care if some legit customer gets hit by a false positive.

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