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Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

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Post by snarf21 »

antioppressor wrote: post #145

Recommendation system is long time broken. I am subscribed to 100+ channels and check 10 channels on a weekly basis, meaning I watch all the new videos these creators make. So that means I want the new stuff from the frequented ones on my front page ASAP. Yet, it's a hit and miss. From the remaining 90 channels I never get anything recommended. Why? If I subscribe to a new channel it gets recommended like hell, then…

Or it is working exactly as intended. We forget sometimes that we have misaligned incentives: We want the most interesting content and Google wants the most ad $$$.

Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

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Post by malfist »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #277
malfist wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Search on windows is uniquely terrible. Oh, you wanted to launch that app? Let me open Edge with a bing search for that app. I especially love it when I'm trying to launch stellarium and it only suggests "stellarium 200%" unless I delete the "m" from stellarium and then it'll suggest "stellarium", "stellarium 200%" and "stellarium (OpenGL)". Anything else and the only result is "stellarium 200%" It's total garbage. I…

Doesn't the Windows - R shortcut work anymore? This always worked much better than just opening the start menu and typing because it only looks for apps and doesn't try to 'help' you with other random searches. But I don't use Windows so much lately so it could be they removed that also. They seem to do that with everything that's useful.

It does, but it has no autocomplete, or suggestions. You have to type everything completely and perfectly for it to work.

If only it worked like command+space on mac.

Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

My Youtube recommendations are a palace, I am perfectly balanced on the machine learning gradient. I have like 80 subscriptions, and I literally derank every single video on my page that I don't want to see. One mistaken click, one slip up and I have to spend a week clicking "I don't want to see this" over and over.

It's almost a zen meditation at this point

Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

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Post by mixmastamyk »

ravenstine wrote: post #212
dereg wrote: post #204

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The best part of YouTube recommendations - side bar recommendations - have been broken for at least 7-9 years. I remember going on deep YouTube rabbit holes in another era, because their recommendations always pointed to new, highly related content. Then, at some point in time, YouTube switched their recommendations algorithm to direct me to a mixture of 1) videos (mostly on unrelated topics) that I've already viewed…

> There are other things that drive me nuts about YouTube's recommendations, like the fact that they will never recommend me the next part of a n-part video. If I'm watching part 2/3 of something, please show 3/3 in the side bar, YouTube! It used to do that, though! They should at least allow it up to a limit or something rather than making it just that stupid. My other biggest complaint really is the recommendation…

Do you really let yt auto-play all night while you sleep?

Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

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Post by GekkePrutser »

malfist wrote: post #293
GekkePrutser wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't the Windows - R shortcut work anymore? This always worked much better than just opening the start menu and typing because it only looks for apps and doesn't try to 'help' you with other random searches. But I don't use Windows so much lately so it could be they removed that also. They seem to do that with everything that's useful.

It does, but it has no autocomplete, or suggestions. You have to type everything completely and perfectly for it to work. If only it worked like command+space on mac.

Ah that's true but I always type the executable name. E.g. regedit, gpedit, lusrmgr... And it does have a command history that serves as autocomplete as far as I remember, you just have to have used it before.

Spotlight on Mac is indeed far superior. And so is the text launch widget thingy on KDE which I use now.

Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

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Post by grepfru_it »

ugjka wrote: post #124
grepfru_it wrote: post #96

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I started using a bookmark service because of this. And after I wrote that sentence I found the original video I was thinking about with a google search. Welp.

Archive everything you like with tools like yt-dlp

I rip videos but I don’t have a good archival story. Thanks for the yt-dlp tip!

Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

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Post by prirai »

One way to tackle this would be exporting your subscriptions from Takeout as a JSON and importing it to something like Newpipe or Freetube. No ads and all the usual needed stuff without recommendations. 1 have around 170 channels by now and it should be clear that this is more than enough for consumption. While watching videos, the sidebar still shows up so I can simple subscribe to them if I like the channel.

Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

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Post by richardsocher »

jvlake wrote: post #298

Wait until you hear about spotify’s recommendation engine... Lousy AI and the push for all content to be commercialised equals bad user experience. Same thing with Google and duckduckgo results.

CEO of you.com here. We decided that one way to avoid this long term is to let users decide on their favorite sources and apps.

I have done a lot of research in AI and it can certainly do a lot of things implicitly but some oversight and explicit user feedback is useful also.

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