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Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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I've cut back by switching to non-alcohol beer. I've found that I enjoy the taste of beer, but I don't enjoy how shitty alcohol makes me feel. NA beer tends to solve that for me. Lots of good options coming out. * Just the Hazy by Sam Adams is top tier. * Athletic brewing is solely NA beer - lots of different varieties. * Heineken 0.0 is great * O'Douls amber is surprisingly passable as well I suspect the options wil…

I used to drink a lot of beer. I went to the pub regularly, beer festivals every year, always had bottled beer in the house and did home brew. Oddly, since going teetotal a few years ago I can't stand the smell or taste of beer any more. Even walking past a pub sometimes I find the smell revolting. I'm not sure if I've "unacquired" the taste or maybe I just associate that smell/taste with being out, drunk and feeling terrible.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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Here are two considerations:

- Try to drink for the taste, not to became wasted. Try to sense the flavour of what you're drinking. I don't think that 12 cans of whatever you drank was so fantastic that you enjoyed all of them. I have plenty of bottles of wine and beers at home, but I rarely drink more than a glass. Also, when you start looking for the taste, you'll discover that good bottles are way more expensive and you want to enjoy drinking them.

- I've only quit smoking, so I can tell what worked for me. I read a book ("it's easy to stop smoking if you know how to do that"), that convinced me that the cigarettes were giving me nothing. We all have excuses to smoke, but in reality they're just excuses. We don't even like that, we only have to think our first cigarette to remind how bad it was. The book goes deep into this topic and actually convinces you that it's better to not smoke, but you must NEVER smoke a cigarette ever again, so that's what I did, and I am happily non-smoking since 15 years. I reccomend you to go this path if you don't want to drink, ever, again. But it doesn't seem the case because you want to continue drinking socially.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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Alcohol is a slow killer. Physical addiction takes about 10 years to form. First, it's barely noticeable. People think it's age, and "after 30 hangover lasts for 2 days". But that is not actually being hang over. It is the symptom of alcohol withdrawal. Mild one at first, but more severe as physical addiction settles in. Drinking 3-4 days a week seems like "okay". However, it basically means drinking whenever withdra…

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Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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Guided introspection.

Despite not considering myself alcoholic, my wife nagged me into going to local Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) meetings. I came to realise that I had somehow slipped into alcoholism without being the classic street-drunk, shop-doorway kind. I had the mental obsession with alcohol in spades... every day I'd count the hours until, after work, I could start drinking.

Once I'd accepted I was alcoholic it was relatively easy. The simple fact is I don't want to be an alcoholic, or any kind of -holic, so I was suddenly highly motivated to stop.

The AA way gets you thinking deeply about why you started drinking heavily in the first place: What are the exact feelings you want to drown in alcohol, and why do you have them?

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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It's interesting that comments on this thread fall into two categories, people who show clear signs of being prone to developing alcohol dependency (or who in the past were alcoholics and have recovered) and people who do not.

It is important to remember that if you have a predisposition to alcohol dependency, alcohol is very dangerous and can destroy your life. If you do not have a predisposition to alcohol dependency, you are unlikely to develop one by drinking a drink once a week. The blanket statements such as "Alcohol is an addictive drug" are not really going to help people who are not predisposed to alcohol dependency stop drinking because they're not going to be able to sympathize with the statement.

On the other hand, "just think of the negative effects you have experienced in the past rather than looking forward to the future imagined good effects" may be a good think for someone who gets peer pressured to drinking too much to hear about as it may be an effective strategy, but it will do nothing for someone predisposed to alcohol dependency.

So, my advice:

Step 1: Figure out if you have a predisposition to alcohol dependency, there are lots of different risk factors but a bit of introspection should let you figure this out. (As a rough shot in the dark, the feeling that OP describes immediately after having a drink sounds like a sign of a predisposition to alcohol dependency.) Chances are if you're dealing with a stressful life situation and have a glass of wine every night to help you fall asleep then you're probably not predisposed to alcohol dependency (also that glass of wine is actually not helping you sleep better so maybe try to find an alternative way of falling asleep such as meditation before sleep).

Note: If you have an alcohol dependency problem stop here and seek help. There are many options here, research them, they vary from requiring a strong support framework to committing yourself to a rehabilitation programme. This is kind of outside the scope of this comment as I have no personal experience with alcohol dependency.

Step 2: Assuming you don't have an alcohol dependency problem, figure out why you are drinking more than you would like to. Social pressure? Anxiety? Insomnia?

Step 3: Work on the problem that is causing you to drink more rather than the short term bandaid you are applying (alcohol). If you have insomnia and you successfully stop relying on alcohol to fall asleep, you're just going to find something else or go insane from insomnia. Insomnia is not fun, figure out how to solve that problem.

If you're young and partying all the time, alcohol can probably be a necessary evil to help lubricate social situations but it's easy to notice that you don't NEED that much of it. Try setting yourself limits and sticking to them, you will notice that you can still have just as much fun, without a lot of the worse side effects. If your problem is social pressure, try to solve that instead. If you're drinking more because of social pressure then it's highly likely that other areas are also impacted by social pressure.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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Check out the Sinclair Method, which is basically taking Naltrexone before you drink. Also check out the book "The Cure for Alcoholism: The Medically Proven Way to Eliminate Alcohol Addiction" by Eskapa. I used this method, along with keeping a log of drinks consumed, to eventually quite drinking over the course of a year. I went from having anywhere from 3-8 drinks a night, every night, to eventually stopping comple…

The Sinclair Method also changed my life. It seemed like I had tried every single thing possible, AA, hypnosis, strange chinese herbs. The Sinclair Method seemed too good to be true, but I can't believe how well it worked. I am not completely indifferent to alcohol. It seems strange to think that this same head of mine used to crave it so.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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If you like the smell, taste and mouth feel of beer, there are some excellent non-alcoholic beers available now. An extended family member is on some meds that contra-indicate alcohol so we get some of that and have since mostly switched to that.

That works well at home and for pre-planned private events; not as many public places have NA beer.

After about 23, I don’t think anyone gives half a crap whether you’re drinking an alcohol drink or not. If you’re self-conscious, get a seltzer with lime wedge. No one will check (or care).

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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I used to put away a liter of vodka a night. I kept it up for years, accumulating a solid decade of heavy drinking. I was miserable. It was souring my relationship. The stress from work, personal life, and declining mental state of course made me feel even more compelled to drink. I was becoming a shell of my former self, and my dreams were becoming strictly that. I had a confluence of events that changed my course:…

1 litre of vodka daily -> cold turkey == risk of convulsions.

You need chemical assistance, typically rather a lot of valium over about 5 days, under skilled supervision (so, in a clinic; or at home with a companion, and with daily visits from a clinician). The valium prescription will require assessment by a psychiatrist. The clinician will adjust the valium dose regularly based on his observations.

That's not really cold turkey, because most of the withdrawal symptoms are suppressed. But you have to stop dead, a good 12 hours before you start on the valium. If you're at home, the clinician will check you for alcohol on your breath, check blood-pressure etc.

Mixing alcohol with large doses of valium is a total no-no, and the clinician will cease treatment immediately.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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What worked for me was Allen Carr's book Easy Way to Control Alcohol https://amzn.eu/d/89NkrKR I tried several times to stop drinking previously, the longest I managed was for about 3 months. I think the hardest part is really deciding that you want to stop drinking. Once I did that, I read the book and it was easy. I haven't had a drink in about 6 years since. What I like about this book is it doesn't make it into s…

I used Allen Carr's book to stop smoking and it worked like a charm. Reading the book made me happy to quit, instead of the expected struggle that everyone that quits smoking goes through. Now I've spent 500 days without smoking and I've never felt the need to smoke again. I haven't read the Easy Way to Control Alcohol, but if it's as good as Easy Way to Stop Smoking I would recommend it.

Same here. Twenty-one years since my last cigarette now, and it's entirely thanks to the late great Allen Carr - may God rest and nourish his immortal soul.

(It was my 9th or 10th attempt to quit too, but my first and only with Easy Way)

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