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Ask HN: When did tech stop being cool?

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Re: Ask HN: When did tech stop being cool?

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When I was young, I was really into gadgets, especially Palm OS PDAs. I had the specs memorized on their entire lineup, I was on top of the latest news and rumors, I was plugged into the community forums.

I loved that scene because every new model meaningfully changed the way technology allowed me to interact with the world. Grayscale -> color, adding a camera, adding enough storage and pixels for media, etc.

Eventually smartphones became indistinguishable black rectangles, where a new year's hardware means nothing. Then smartphone software became so mundane that I don't really care whether I'm running the latest OS because I can't tell the difference.

Tech is maturing. We're no longer fumbling around, looking for new local maxima - we're getting closer and closer to the global maximum of what today's technology can accomplish. We're certainly not there yet, but the exploration phase is over until something new comes along to upend the game.

And technology has left enthusiasts behind. Normal folks don't want their smartphone to have an experimental hardware module with no clear use. They get excited that the latest social media app lets them play a better status game with their peers, or that a group scheduling app saves X minutes per week across their team.

I don't think there's a way out. Niche/fringe technologies can still be very exciting - the crypto crowd is having a blast, and PinePhone has some people excited. But if crypto doesn't catastrophically implode, it'll eventually mature enough that all the fun parts have already been solved and all that's left is boring, marginal improvements, where folks try to eek out another dollar.

Re: Ask HN: When did tech stop being cool?

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Are you sure? I'd like to hear the take of someone in their early twenties on this. My feeling is that a lot of them are terrified by it themselves too.

I'm 22. I feel like there hasn't been any major technologcal shift since ~2014. Phones have gotten faster and more capable, but are still mostly the same. Social media has gotten bigger, but hasn't innovated in a meaningful way. "AI" has gotten better which is fascinating, but in the end it will most likely just be used for manipulation, surveillance and manipulation. I can't really think of any technology to look fo…

99% of smartphone innovation over the past decade has gone into the camera so "influencers" can post better pictures.

Re: Ask HN: When did tech stop being cool?

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post #139
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure? I'd like to hear the take of someone in their early twenties on this. My feeling is that a lot of them are terrified by it themselves too.

I'm 22. I feel like there hasn't been any major technologcal shift since ~2014. Phones have gotten faster and more capable, but are still mostly the same. Social media has gotten bigger, but hasn't innovated in a meaningful way. "AI" has gotten better which is fascinating, but in the end it will most likely just be used for manipulation, surveillance and manipulation. I can't really think of any technology to look fo…

mRNA vaccines for novel disease being developed in days doesn’t do it for you?

Re: Ask HN: When did tech stop being cool?

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It's an age thing - the dreams you had when you were younger didn't turn into reality - dreams usually don't. Or at least, not as you expect it. Tech is still really cool, compared to decades ago. But we have so much of it and it is everywhere, that we re-calibrate and think that all this amazing, cool tech is boring. You can get a 3D printer for a few hundred bucks, build it yourself, build a better 3d printer, get…

I agree that it's partly an age thing, but I also agree that the times have been more exciting in the past technology-wise. I grew up as a eighties tech geek kid. I learned BASIC on a SHARP programmable calculator ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharp_PC-1403 ), then moved on to an Atari 800, then to an Amiga, and finally to a PC. Each of these machines was orders of magnitude more capable than the previous one - you…

I might be wrong but it sounds like what excited you was seeing the progress of the tools, not necessarily what YOU can do with the tools. If that's the case then yeah, it's probably getting harder to put your hands on tools that are orders of magnitude greater than what you just had. I'm learning guitar, all the tools I can get are all very exciting because I haven't seen them before, and I could acquire them a lot faster than I can improve my abilities. But if I don't put in the time to advance myself along with the tools they will quickly become "boring", but only because I'm not able to use them effectively.

Re: Ask HN: When did tech stop being cool?

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> When did this start, and when is the drought going to be over?

It started when we as a society let the tech cos get too big.

...Why does that matter? All the talent decided its better to get paid by the big tech cos and work a job instead of starting their own tech co. In fairness trying to compete with the big tech cos is a fools errand. Right now we're in a weird period of history where it just doesn't make financial sense to go start a novel company when you could live the cushy Big Tech Co life for roughly the same amount of money, yet substantially less risk.

When is it going to end? When a butterfly in Africa flaps its wings.

Re: Ask HN: When did tech stop being cool?

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A large part of the issue is that it is now your job. Instead of doing whatever you want, you do what you need to do, or even worse what your customer or boss tells you what to do.

I love dancing, and I love teaching dancing. But as a job, it really sucks. Customers and bosses ruin everything. At least with tech, the job pays well, unlike teaching dance.

Re: Ask HN: When did tech stop being cool?

#287
I've been having this thought quite a lot lately. Computers are stupid and everything sucks now.

I think it has to do with consolidation and greed. Novelties are fun but they don't make you billions of dollars. It's just a constant incremental churn of boring but profitable walled garden junk from megacorps.

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