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Ask HN: New attempt at mobile markup – keep or bail?

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Re: Ask HN: New attempt at mobile markup – keep or bail?

#282

This looks (and more importantly, works) much better than before. For those not on mobile, here is what the new layout looks like on an iPhone 6s on iOS 9.0.1. ==> http://imgur.com/5LgB1xB.jpg Here is what the comment page looks like ==> http://i.imgur.com/ugOASR5.png This is the viewport bug when you try to enter a comment ==> http://i.imgur.com/i0Ekiod.png and http://i.imgur.com/T0NDIFc.png

It's an improvement, but the up/down-vote buttons are still way too small to hit comfortably.

That's true even on desktop.

Re: Ask HN: New attempt at mobile markup – keep or bail?

#285
post #269

It's awful. I thought HN just didn't care. Why is this so hard? I do this every day for work and HN should be dead simple. Is this saying HN doesn't have anyone who knows how to do this? EDIT: My initial post was from my phone. Now I'm on my workstation and I see the markup here is antiquated, pre-1998 HTML. No wonder this is so horrid. You should be ashamed but, still, I could do better.

Let's see your re-design.

Design? This needs re-coding first. I can do that but, ass, gas or grass; nobody rides for free. (Not that I wouldn't or haven't)

Re: Ask HN: New attempt at mobile markup – keep or bail?

#287
Definitely an improvement over what came before!

Curious why it doesn't work when I shrink my desktop browser window though -- is it actually a separate "mobile version" that is only served to certain devices (instead of just having some breakpoints at narrower widths)?

Re: Ask HN: New attempt at mobile markup – keep or bail?

#288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"think thrice before using your votes". I remember this being also used as the justification for not having clearly separated up/down buttons. I totally disagree with it, fwiw.

I personally think "having an interface that makes it nigh impossible to downvote when you meant to upvote" should be a prerequisite for the "think thrice before using your votes" goal... Well at least they're doing something to address it now. In any case, I still disagree with the lack of a reverse vote option, especially when upvoting also serves as an archival mechanism, and downvoting removes the opportunity to…

    > especially when upvoting also serves as an archival mechanism
Right - it's not even about _changing_ votes. Just an hour or so ago I accidentally upvoted the wrong submission (on mobile), so now that's stored in my "saved stories"; nothing I can do about it.

Re: Ask HN: New attempt at mobile markup – keep or bail?

#289

Keep. It's not a huge improvement, but it's slightly better. I'd actually sent HN a long review of mobile experience on a 10" tablet acouple of days ago and received a response from dang earlier tonight tipping me off to this. I'm not sure I'd have noticed without that. In vertical orientation, viewport width is better, and an annoying glitch where font size changed apparently randomly on some nested comments is gone…

Revisiting this in landscape mode: the main body text is too small and too wide.

Again: for virtually all content, max width of ~35-45em, with a slight margin (I really don't like text flush with screen edge except on the very narrowest of displays, 1-4em margin responsive across a set of displays from >30em to ~70 would be about right).

Zoomable font size holding page to fit within viewport would be a big gain.

Screenshot: https://m.imgur.com/5rCdRdI

Mind that's a 10" display. Fonts are small for my eyes. Context-zooming on main content helps somewhat, but only marginally.

Re: Ask HN: New attempt at mobile markup – keep or bail?

#290
This is great, but I still have trouble with the small font size. Adding A+ / a- buttons would be a nice addition, even though there is a workaround.

It's got to be possible to override zoom (pinch out gesture) and have it only change the font size, so there's no text clipping. The buttons would be much simpler and easy to control though.

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