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Ask HN: What is your system for backing up family photos and video?

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- PhotoSync on all family devices uploads pictures to local ubuntu server

- Local server processes items and provides UI for family members

- Pics and videos get backed up to Wasabi (S3-compatible) storage using restic (incremental backups, no need to upload hundreds of GBs every night)

- Once in a while I back everything up to external HDD and store it in a drawer at work

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I am nitpicking but there are some very important steps missing: Encrypt everything Check drives (health etc) Etc

I don't Encrypt my family photos. I don't understand why anyone would?

Multiple reasons:

1) Someone can use those to train DeepFake models and scam your family

2) There could be private photos and videos there that you aren't aware of

3) Why not?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn’t really seem that hard. Buying a new hard drive and cloning data from the old one can be done pretty easily once a year.

Nothing seems hard until you do it.

I agree. GP comment brings to mind the infamous reply to Dropbox Show HN which compared it to something users could trivially implement using basic Unix commands.

Re: Ask HN: What is your system for backing up family photos and video?

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1. copy to hard disk 2. buy a new drive every year and copy it forward 3. store a copy with relatives Note that a cloud provider: 1. can shut off your access at any time, by accident or on purpose, and you have no recourse 2. will sell your data to anyone at any time 3. will give it to any government for the asking 4. will leak it to any hacker 5. will allow employees of said cloud provider to browse your data 6. wil…

Maybe I am nitpicking but there are some very important steps missing: Encrypt everything Check drives (health etc) Etc

It's easy to say "Encrypt everything," but how do you go about it? For folks looking for an "easy" cross-platform solution to encrypt your sensitive bits in the cloud, check out Cryptomator [^1].

[^1]: https://cryptomator.org/

(no affiliation)

Re: Ask HN: What is your system for backing up family photos and video?

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I'm surprised how technical and homegrown all these solutions are (well, it's an HN crowd so maybe I shouldn't be). I'm a techy too and pretty into photography, but I've gone the other way. I store all my photos on a desktop computer and use BackBlaze to automatically keep everything backed up. It violates the 3-2-1 rule but in the 10ish years I've been using this approach I've had tons of harddrive failures, had to…

Question about your approach: are you able to partition your Backblaze back-up in order to maintain just a minimal set of photos on your local machine? Would love to do this: - Back-up local machine via Blackblaze - Periodically delete all local photos, save somewhere in BB - Turn on regular back-up again - keeping both the local stuff (now much smaller) but also the previous bulk save in BB.

My answer to maintaining a minimal set of photos on a local machine isn't great unfortunately. The desktop holding all the photos acts like a file server and I connect my laptop to that when browsing images.

There's a way to do it that I find somewhat risky: pay a bit extra for permanent storage. Normally Backblaze will remove deleted files in 30 days (I pay for a year). If you do permanent then you can delete your originals from your local machine and Backblaze will keep them presumably forever. That approach makes me nervous personally :)

Re: Ask HN: What is your system for backing up family photos and video?

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1. copy to hard disk 2. buy a new drive every year and copy it forward 3. store a copy with relatives Note that a cloud provider: 1. can shut off your access at any time, by accident or on purpose, and you have no recourse 2. will sell your data to anyone at any time 3. will give it to any government for the asking 4. will leak it to any hacker 5. will allow employees of said cloud provider to browse your data 6. wil…

Remember that the cloud, is just "some other guys computer"

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For me the most important part is to keep it simple and not dependent on the one tech person of the family paying for some cloud storage. Unlike other mentions in the comments what you don't want to have is custom scripts, git, backups tools, strong encryption, cronjobs running on some server that will go away eventually. A labeled, unencrypted HDD in a closet in two different locations will most likely do the job ju…

probably an optical disk is a more long-lasting solution

Re: Ask HN: What is your system for backing up family photos and video?

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iCloud + Google Photos. I've just resigned myself to spending to keep these memories safe.

Same here. Got 2TB on iCloud, and 2TB on Google. Main is iCloud, automatically synchronised. Backup is Google, kept synchronised as well. Got wife and children as authorised users on the first, and have managed credentials shared with them on the second.

Nothing lasts forever.

Re: Ask HN: What is your system for backing up family photos and video?

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I have 3 layers:

Online: A big BTRFS "raid 1" (block-based mirroring) array. This is what Plex runs off of. If I lose a drive, I just replace it and rebalance. I run btrfs scrubs weekly.

Offline: I have a WD external hdd with a plain old ext4 hdd that I rsync all files to weekly. If my btrfs array shits itself, I just copy back over from this hdd.

Emergency: If the above process doesn't work (say: the external hdd is dead when I go to restore from it, or I can't physically find it, or my house floods and everything in the basement is lost, etc), then my fallback is:

I sync all truly critical stuff that can't be replaced (so, basically just family pics and videos) to S3 as deep archive storage class. Costs pennies. I don't do any fancy tar/archiving, encrypting, or compressing (since video and image files are generally already compressed). I figure the risk of people snooping at our family pics is smaller than the risk of me needing to restore from a backup and not being able to because of stupid reasons (lost gpg key, some kind of problem with tar, etc).

This is small, since most of my disk use is from things like rips I've made of BluRay/DVD's, FLACs from bandcamp or rips of music CD's, etc. Things I can recover with appropriate effort.

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