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Re: Ask HN: Own .com for 7 years, a new company trademarked my name registered .NET

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You need to speak with a qualified domain name attorney, not just any attorney or solicitor. As Director of a domain name protection company (and not an attorney) I can offer this: If you registered the domain name before the other party files for a trademark, then there is no way you would have known that they would file for the mark. So, in most cases you probably don’t have to give up the domain name. It comes dow…

> If you cannot afford an attorney, look for a company that offers domain name insurance or a domain name warranty, if you have an issue like this with your domain name, your legal fees to defend the domain are covered. I would think it’s too late for that. Insurers typically (and most of the time rightfully, exceptions being cases were law requires them to do so, as is the case with health insurance in some countrie…

The OP only received a letter, and hasn’t been sued. It’s not too late to set up domain protection.

Business insurance and cyber liability insurance doesn’t cover domain names. You have to get a domain name protection company to cover the domain.

Re: Ask HN: Own .com for 7 years, a new company trademarked my name registered .NET

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While this is definitely a bunch a hot air, unfortunately they could frivolous sue you to simply win on financial grounds alone (in particular they could sue you in a location where the cost of travel would be expensive and if you ignored it they get a default judgement, or sue you in both state & federal courts for slightly different things and drown you in legal costs). I'd evaluate what your endgame is. If your en…

He could transfer the domain to a friend who is not in the US, and then they'd have nothing to stand on :)

Looks like it's the opposite. They'll sue in jurisdiction where the other guy have to appear in court.

If not - they'll auto-win and Verisign will happily transfer the domain to crooks.

Re: Ask HN: Own .com for 7 years, a new company trademarked my name registered .NET

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I take the view that there needs to be a penalty for people who send out these letters but fail in their ultimate claim. If you send cease and desist letters without merit you should be forced to indemnify the respondent for the entirety of their attorney's fees and pay exemplary damages. This would require lawyers to make a careful assessment about prospects of success, rather than hoping to scare the other side int…

This is a great idea. What is particularly galling to me is how media companies trying to protect their content rights make completely meritless legal claims such as mass sending false DMCA requests to video sites saying that they own some work that is completely false, with no punishment for spamming out factually incorrect claims and harming people. That whole messed up system has been commented on many times in ot…

>> This is a great idea.

Indeed, but cottage industry of ambulance chasing lawyers are heavily lobbying politicians to not let these great ideas see light of the day.

Re: Ask HN: Own .com for 7 years, a new company trademarked my name registered .NET

#277

You need to speak with a qualified domain name attorney, not just any attorney or solicitor. As Director of a domain name protection company (and not an attorney) I can offer this: If you registered the domain name before the other party files for a trademark, then there is no way you would have known that they would file for the mark. So, in most cases you probably don’t have to give up the domain name. It comes dow…

in other words... if you are broke, you are toast! They will sue you to Bankruptcy... Welcome to America.

Re: Ask HN: Own .com for 7 years, a new company trademarked my name registered .NET

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> If you cannot afford an attorney, look for a company that offers domain name insurance or a domain name warranty, if you have an issue like this with your domain name, your legal fees to defend the domain are covered. I would think it’s too late for that. Insurers typically (and most of the time rightfully, exceptions being cases were law requires them to do so, as is the case with health insurance in some countrie…

The OP only received a letter, and hasn’t been sued. It’s not too late to set up domain protection. Business insurance and cyber liability insurance doesn’t cover domain names. You have to get a domain name protection company to cover the domain.

Surely the insurer would become suspicious if the OP was then sued soon after, and then refuse to pay? My experience with insurance companies is that they will go to the ends of the earth to avoid paying anything.

Re: Ask HN: Own .com for 7 years, a new company trademarked my name registered .NET

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Ive had three legal advice experiences - two with work and one personal. The employer ones were both straightforward about whether or not we should do something, and they did not encourage us to keep returning to them on the issue, and the personal one the guy gave me a 30 minute phone call, advised me that if I wanted to formally pursue the matter I would need to engage his services at £200/hour, however his unoffic…

> my experience with developers is that developers will repeatedly tell you that the software isn't complete and requires extra attention to keep it running and to maintain it Is that not true in most cases? A running system will eventually become vulnerable to attacks, and/or services it relies on may be deprecated. The last thing you want is to be in a situation where your software is easily exploitable, but your d…

Yes, and im sure it's equally as true for lawyers too!

Re: Ask HN: Own .com for 7 years, a new company trademarked my name registered .NET

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Shouldn't we aim to have better moral standards than them when dealing with third parties? I'm just absolutely dumfounded that someone is seriously suggesting harassing a wife and children over a business relationship and repeatedly trying to justify it.

In general? Sure. When dealing with hostile unwanted contact? Not particularly. Nobody here has advocated harassing someone's wife or children. That's a straw man you created.

> If phone calls at inconvenient-to-them times end up bothering their family as well, it's because they didn't do the work to separate their family from their ugly business.

Real ‘nice family you have there, shame if someone would scare them with a few calls at 2am’ vibe there, and you know it.

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