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Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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post #68

Google Wave. Edit: you asked why. I first saw it at SELF where Chris DiBona showed it to me and a close friend. It was awesome. Real time translation, integration of various types of messaging, tons of cool capabilities, and it was fully open source. What made it out of Google was a stripped down version of what I was shown, the market rejected it, and it was a sad day. Now, I am left with JIRA, Slack, and email. It…

Google Wave was way ahead of its time.

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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ZeroNet decentralized web platform:

- Based on BitTorrent ideas

- Completely decentralized websites' code and data

- Either completely decentralized or controllable-decentralized authentication

- Could be integrated into existing websites (!)

It's not kind of dead, there's a supported fork, but it still feels like a revolution that did not happen. It works really well.

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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XenClient. I would really love to have some minimal OS HyperVisor running, and then you slap multiple OSes on top of that w/ easy full GUI switching via some hotkeys like Ctrl+Shift+F1. Additionaly, special drivers to virtualize Gfx and Sfx devices so every VM have full desktop capabilities and low latency.

Unfortunately, it died because its very niche and also they couldnt keep up with development of drivers for desktops.. This is even worse today...

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#264
post #37

A lot of things on https://killedbygoogle.com/ . I used to use 30-40 Google products and services. I'm down to 3-4. Google Picasa: Everything local, so fast, so good. I'm never going to give my photos to G Photos. Google Hangouts: Can't keep track of all the Google chat apps. I use Signal now. Google G Suite Legacy: It was supposed to be free forever. They killed it, tried to make me pay. I migrated out of Google. Go…

Picasa was awesome, they had face recognition years before almost everything else, in a nice offline package.

Unfortunately the last public version has a bug that randomly swaps face tags, so you end up training on the wrong persons faces just enough to throw it all off, and the recognition becomes effectively worthless on thousands of family photos. 8(

Digikam is a weak sauce replacement that barely gets the job done.

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Microsoft Songsmith is another one that deserved a second life. It let you hum or sing a melody and would auto-generate full backing tracks, guitar, bass, drums, chords, in any style you chose. It looked a bit goofy in the promo videos, but under the hood it was doing real-time chord detection and accompaniment generation. Basically a prototype of what AI music tools like Suno, Udio, or Mubert are doing today, fiftee…

I will just leave this here: https://youtu.be/mg0l7f25bhU

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#266
post #68

Google Wave. Edit: you asked why. I first saw it at SELF where Chris DiBona showed it to me and a close friend. It was awesome. Real time translation, integration of various types of messaging, tons of cool capabilities, and it was fully open source. What made it out of Google was a stripped down version of what I was shown, the market rejected it, and it was a sad day. Now, I am left with JIRA, Slack, and email. It…

I was blown away by the demo but then after I thought about it, it seemed like a nightmare to me. All the problems of slack of having to manually check channels for updates except X 100 (yea, I get that slack wasn't available then. My point is I saw that it seemed impossible to keep up with nested constantly updated hierarchical threads. Keeping up with channels on slack is bad enough so imagine if Wave had succeeded…

Maybe one could have worked around that by embedding Yahoo Pipes, thus automating the X 100.

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

#267
post #74

Yahoo pipes. It was so great at creating rss feeds and custom workflows. There are replacements now like Zapier and n8n but loved that. Also google reader which is mentioned multiple times already.

If anyone with time, money and resources wants to revive the ideas of Yahoo! Pipes then I would suggest using Node-RED[^1] as a good starting point.

It has the advantage of being open source, has well defined and stable APIs and a solid backend. Plus 10+ years of constant development with many learnings around how to implement flow based programming visually.

I used the Node-RED frontend to create Browser-Red[^2] which is a Node-RED that solely executes in the browser, no server required. It does not support all Node-RED functionality but gives a good feel for using Node-RED and flow based programming.

The second project with which I am using Node-RED frontend is Erlang-Red[^3] which is Node-RED with an Erlang backend. Erlang is better suited to flow based programming than NodeJS, hence this attempt to demonstrate that!

Node-RED makes slightly different assumptions than Yahoo! Pipes - input ports being the biggest: all nodes in Node-RED have either zero or one input wires, nodes in Yahoo! Pipes had multiple input wires.

A good knowledge of jQuery is required but that makes it simpler to get into the frontend code - would be my argument ;) I am happy to answer questions related to Node-RED, email in bio.

[^1]: https://nodered.org

[^2]: https://cdn.flowhub.org

[^3]: https://github.com/gorenje/erlang-red

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

#268

The information superhighway The internet before advertising, artificial intelligence, social media and bots. When folks created startups in their bedrooms or garages. The days when google slogan was “don’t be evil”.

That part of the Internet still exists, it's just nobody visits those sites anymore.

Communities are moving back to early Internet-like chatrooms like IRC, but now it is Slack, Discord, and the like. Everything private.

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post #81
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chromecast Audio still works! They just don't sell them anymore. I use mine every day, and have been keeping an eye out for anyone selling theirs...

Hmm, good to know. But given Google's history, I assumed that it would stop working. I also need to sell my Google Chromecast with Google TV 4K. Brand new, still in its shrink wrap. Bought it last year, to replace a flaky Roku. It was a flaky HDMI cable instead. I trust Roku more than Google for hardware support.

In absolutely shocking news, it did stop working and then Google went out of their way to fix it.

I genuinely thought all the chromecast audios I owned were useless bricks and was looking around for replacements and then they just started working again from an OTA update. Astounding. I assume someone got fired for taking time away from making search worse to do this.

(edit: https://www.techradar.com/televisions/streaming-devices/goog...)

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

#270
post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m confused why this can’t be done in software? mount -t tmpfs ram /mnt/ramdisk

Products to attach RAM to expansion slots have long existed and continue to be developed. It's a matter of adding more memory once all of the DIMMs are full. What to do with it, once it's there, is a concern of software, but specialized hardware is needed to get it there.

Also battery backup (or at least some beefy capacitors).
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