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Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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If you're unable to discern that the word serves a purpose(emphasis) in that sentence, I literally don't know what to say to you.

Of course I can discern that. I think it sounds stupid and childish, and makes someone appear less intelligent. Overused and misused word. But this is now derailing the thread.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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People who are a little late to the site may not know there was a time on HN where Erlang has even more frontage submission than the best of AI / LLM. Ruby Rails, Postgres, SQLite, Rust, etc. They all have their moments and I dont think LLM right now is as overwhelming as any other hyped moments. Certainly not Erlang.

The best one was the 2048 era: https://hn.algolia.com/?q=2048

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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AI/LLM has become of core part of IT. If you don't want AI then it seems like you want a retro-computing news aggregator or just HN minus personal annoyances. I get it, sometimes I want the simpler days but as long as the AI/LLM posts are not dumbed down mainstream content I'm interested it them and most visitors probably are also. I wouldn't have discovered most of the articles from other places. The posts match the…

> as long as the AI/LLM posts are not dumbed down mainstream content

The problem is, most of it really is (as it boils down to "I am / $COMPANY is using an LLM to do something; here's how you can do it too, and / or some pundit's opinion of the implications for the industry"). And the stuff that wouldn't be (like how they work, or statistics and benchmarks), often requires relatively specific domain knowledge to really appreciate.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Wouldn't be hard to train an LLM to do it!

Indeed! Previous: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44261825 I suppose an extension is the answer, classifying and customizing the user’s view accordingly with a pluggable LLM config.

Maybe you'll want to try Techne: https://techne.app.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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> And I'm really exhausted, tired of hearing about how this is going to replace people like me any minute now I'm kind of exhausted in general (year after year) of frankly unimaginative engineers who should know better, latching on to whatever is the latest soup of the month, and touting it here as the greatest human achievement since fire.

I do wish that there was a good place to talk about interesting stuff with people online that was a bit more resistant to both the extreme hype and the extreme pessimism HN threads very often feel like whichever side posted first winds up dominating the thread, it's bizarre I see the comments on some articles that are massively pro AI all upvoted to the top, then the comments on another article and it's all the negat…

Yeah this has been the worst development in HN culture as HN has grown in my experience. To make things worse the extremity of the hype and pessimism just creates a huge flamewar where each side is dedicated to using the worst strawmen to undermine the other side.

Personally I just started treating this site as a sophisticated shitposting place and started actually talking about tech in group chats with friends who work in the industry. Increasingly I see folks refer to the content here in the same breath as Reddit so I don't think I'm the only one.

It's probably just a scale problem. When a website becomes big enough it becomes dominated by the folks with the most time to post and the most passionate opinions.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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As annoyed as I am with the constant deluge of uninteresting AI/LLM articles, I would much rather see a split between tech and startup news. I think that's a lasting and useful distinction.

Isn't topical subcommunities just Reddit?

The userbase overlap is probably > 50%. To many people HN is just another subreddit.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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The problem is the quality, not the topic. Understanding serious papers about AI development requires fairly specialist knowledge; there are plenty of people around (like myself) who have been programming for decades and can write really nice code in a bunch of different programming languages, but have very little if any mental model of "transformers" or whatever. So in practice, "AI" content ends up revolving around…

Interesting take. To me it feels like golden age of hackers in the 60s-80s (which was before my time but I heard stories about) where everybody is doing their own home grown research to the best of their abilities and sharing insights of varying quality. But somehow these days if it's not all polished, HN "hackers" aren't interested.

> But somehow these days if it's not all polished, HN "hackers" aren't interested.

The fun part is that these days, typically the READMEs (especially) and licensing and documentation and maybe even the packaging setup are "polished"; the actual code (and perhaps the tests), not so much. It's quite backwards from what you expect from humans writing new code based on personal intrinsic motivation.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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post #27

I have seen this question asked on subreddits, Not about AI, but for other topics that some people dislike. They always seem to take the form of "Should we divide this group into A and B, A stays here and B goes over there and that way everybody is happy" Invariably the person who proposes this wants to remain in group A and will not be a participant in group B. To me this seems like the subtext is "Those people are…

It is also possible to appropriate an established community by bringing in new members over time with views opposing the founding principles. This is much easier if the leadership preaches tolerance.

This is one of those things that is kind of hard to say without people getting triggered because of negative stereotypes but sometimes you have to stand up for principles and kick people out of social groups to keep a good thing going.

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