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Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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Discord Trust and Safety in particular is downright useless. I feel I should share my story. It's a personal hell I've been stuck in for a while. I'm disabled from severe depression resistant to first line treatments, bedridden a lot of the time, and I rely on the platform for most of my social interaction and resources for my hobbies, as far as I can pursue them of course. Discord is invaluable and is basically a mo…

> A few days ago I made three accounts to try to test ways to get them off my back. One was made on a virtual machine on a VPS located a thousand miles away from me and had no connection to me. Although I did give vague hints to friends that it was me. They banned all three accounts, even the VM one. I had a nervous breakdown knowing I may never be able to participate on the platform again. I also felt like I was bei…

The vps account was banned because it was created on a vps. Probably wasn’t linked to you if you ask me.

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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This happened to me - they absolutely will not unblock your # unless you know somebody who works there beyond the support queues. I was told by a friend who did a stint at Discord that standard flow is churn new accounts, and that's acceptable because their users are already used to name churn.

Wait, are you implying they’re doing it to cook the books for inflating the total # of accounts on the platform? Somebody call Elon.

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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Honestly at this point I just went to the cell phone store and added a new line with a new sim card

Its like $5-20 dollars/mo, circumvents phone number based account barriers, circumvents voip and burner number discrimination

each iphone has 2 sim card slots, can give dates and strippers a phone number that doesn't have green bubbles when texted, amplifying my broad population legitimacy by an order of magnitude (its USA obviously it matters), while still keeping them segregated

I pay more for an uber, or a drink, or some stupid SaaS seat. just a social and internet freedom tax.

at this point just make it normal

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_et_al_Disinterm... Most couples now meet online. Good luck convincing them all the internet is not real life. And those stats are from 2017. Given a few years of lockdown the trend has surely accelerated. Discord is how a lot of young people talk these days. If you're banned from Discord, it's not very comforting to hear "you don't need Discord son, in my day we didn't hav…

Lets use your example of a dating app. Lets say someone makes a Catholic-focused dating app. People make their bio state "Mary was a prostitute! Jesus is a lie!" What should the platform do?

The platform should ban the user, with an explanation written by a human being explaining what rule they broke. And no, "our shiny new machine learning algorithm flagged your account" doesn't cut it. Arbitration should be an option. I could write a lot more, but hopefully you get the idea.

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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> Have these online public spaces serve under the same laws as real-life public spaces (museums, parks et cetera). That will inevitably lead to more government spying at the end of the day. No thanks.

what's your reasoning?

Government implements regulations about public discourse then eventually goes on to decide what is considered OK to publish and acts as a censor in the end. Since these become now effectively government driven platforms you lose the possibility of alternatives.

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lets use your example of a dating app. Lets say someone makes a Catholic-focused dating app. People make their bio state "Mary was a prostitute! Jesus is a lie!" What should the platform do?

The platform should ban the user, with an explanation written by a human being explaining what rule they broke. And no, "our shiny new machine learning algorithm flagged your account" doesn't cut it. Arbitration should be an option. I could write a lot more, but hopefully you get the idea.

Ban the user? But how would that person ever find a match with a dating site banning them? It's completely socially ostracizing for that user to not be able to use the app. How would they ever be able to function in society without access to the Catholic dating app?

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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I don't get it. We keep seeing these dystopian stories again and again and again. Does anybody really believe it will ever stop? Or will we all live in fear of losing a lot of work and valuable connections by being banned from one of our social accounts? I already lost one Instagram account that I put a lot of work into. One day, Insta suddenly asked for my birthday. After me putting it in, all I saw is "Sorry, this…

I'm working on this right now for two different experiences, topic-oriented chat (Discord, etc) and media blogging (Instagram, YouTube) using a distributed graph database + cryptographic primitives, and user-hosted data.

Happy to connect with you or anyone else reading this and trade ideas / give updates, email in bio.

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The platform should ban the user, with an explanation written by a human being explaining what rule they broke. And no, "our shiny new machine learning algorithm flagged your account" doesn't cut it. Arbitration should be an option. I could write a lot more, but hopefully you get the idea.

Ban the user? But how would that person ever find a match with a dating site banning them? It's completely socially ostracizing for that user to not be able to use the app. How would they ever be able to function in society without access to the Catholic dating app?

Don't forget that we're comparing:

1. someone who broke site rules

2. someone who did not break site rules

I advocate group #1 suffering the consequences for their actions. I do not advocate group #2 losing access due to factors outside their control. Not sure why you're getting the two confused.

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