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>so there is no way to automatically backup the bookmarks in this nice format Firefox automatically backs up current bookmarks in lz4-compressed json under $profiledir/bookmarkbackups ($profiledir by default being like ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxx.default). Can also autoexport to an HTML file by setting the following about:config prefs: browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML => (boolean) true browser.bookmarks.file => (string)…
I may misunderstand! But how often is the bookmarks autoexported to html? Can you set the interval also?
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#263You can already do all the things you ask for, in Chrome. Control+shift+B is the shortcut to hide/unhide the bookmark bar. If you unhide it, it remains visible, even next time you restart chrome. You can create bookmark folders. Then right click on the folder -> "Open all" or "Open all in new window". Etc. It's intuitive, efficient, and prominent ("Open all" is literally the FIRST item in the right-click context menu…
You can do it in Firefox too
There is a fix; add in about:config an item "browser.toolbars.bookmarks.2h2020" set as boolean False.
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#264i've had a couple of bookmark-type extensions built over the years but quality was usually garbage, including the ones i wrote from scratch, so they all eventually got abandoned. i still am able to do much of what i want natively - def not all. like, i have a 'News' tab that i right click to open 32 media sites that give me all the ways the world is prob going to end today. i have a bunch of 'search engine and site s…
I'm currently working on a bookmark extension for Chrome, initially targeting my own needs, but I hope to make it available to others eventually. I'm wondering if there are any insights you could share about what factors led to the quality issues you mentioned.
outside of that, i think quality can tumble when a solo dev starts to lose interest -- i.e. burnout.
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#265The one feature that's missing from browser bookmarks in my opinion is aliases. If I could bookmark a page, and then assign it an alias like "hn" so I could just type "hn" in to the address bar to go to that bookmarked page, that would be so helpful. It's possible to do this in Chrome by abusing the site search feature (add a new site search, give it a name, use a URL but don't put a %s search query in it... now it's…
That said, it has to be really unique since browsers usually search for both title and url of the bookmark. I also have the issue that sometimes I want to search in a specific group of folders, so I'm currently working on an extension to scratch that itch.
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#266Some of these are
-pin bookmarks or folders and sort the rest of bookmarks in that folder
-search bookmarks by name or tag in a group of folders
-have something like sessions where only a custom groups of folders are visible
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#267I don't know how people think Firefox has feature-rich bookmark manager, probably never used a browser that cares about power-users. Firefox can't even open Bookmark manager in a new tab, whole bookmark feature hasn't improved in 15 years. Vivaldi has the best bookmark management in UX/UI. > i want to be able to quickly load common favourite news sites & blogs. Right click on a tab > Bookmark all tabs. Vivaldi create…
For me this is a strength.
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#269The mainstream vendors became extremely conservative about introducing bigger UI changes and generally innovating on user experience (because of the sheer number and diversity of users as well as classic enterprise internal MO).
That’s why we’re still stuck in the 90’s paradigm of browsing web documents where today the browser is also proto-OS running web applications and a data pre-processor (used to retreve+download from Net into local apps or to upload+classify from local apps to Net).
Even though it’s technically possible to save multiple tabs as bookmarks and reopen multiple bookmarks as tabs (with a single action), very few people do.
My theory is that they became obsolete because: 1. The bookmarks bar is very limited with active real estate and quickly becomes crammed, and thus useless for long-term use which begets large quantities of data 2. To search bookmarks you need to open Bookmarks Manager which is too cumbersome even for occasional searches (most users probably don’t even know about it) 3. Editing and maintaining them is also cumbersome due to a lack of proper tools (batch operations, quick preview, etc) 4. The older the links, the harder it is to remember names and keywords, and our visual memory is often the most reliable point of reference 5. Even if the person is willing to put in the effort to deal with #3 and #4, once saved links tend to become forgotten about because #1 and #2 and the vicious cycle of deprecation is complete
That’s why most people use the bookmarks bar as a quick launcher pad for frequently used bookmarks.
The Read Later services and native features are great for articles but not for general bookmarks that are not long-form reading. Equally, full-text carbon copy clippers such as Notion, Raindrops, Evernote, etc. are not ideal for bookmarks for the same reason. Not to mention such solutions can only save pages one-by-one (instead of in batch), and can’t open multiple links at the same time — both needed to easily and quickly switch between different tasks/contexts.
Without being able to easily save and organise large quantities of (useful) links, people resort to leaving them open until they are able to process them, contributing to a pervasive issue of tab-hoarding.
Without being able to (auto)save sessions/tabs, people end up losing a lot of valuable references. The browser is the only (major) app in a modern stack that doesn’t save work and doesn’t enable you to reopen previous work.
You can only undo recently closed tabs and recover the last state of the browser if it crashes. But you can’t save and close an online shopping session in the middle, only to reopen and pick up where you left off several days later. Why not?
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