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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by joshspankit »

causality0 wrote: post #241
amacbride wrote: post #173

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and Dropbox

I will never forgive Dropbox. I spent a decade evangelizing them as the way to do cloud file storage to all the tech-illiterate people in my life and then Dropbox decided to limit free accounts to three devices. The sheer number of pissed-off and/or confused phone calls I got from all of those people was enough to make me wish eternal suffering upon the Dropbox executives.

That is basically the dictionary definition of cashing out social capital: be so good that people evangelize your brand, then start aggressively putting profit first once you reach a critical mass of public awareness.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by akshatmittal108 »

bgribble wrote: post #66

It’s definitely not as featureful as Evernote, but Simplenote is working well for me for my day to day note taking.

Same for me. I wanted a simple app like Google notes however a bit more suited for long form texts. Simplenote works brilliantly for me. I gave Evernote a try, however that seems to be more suited towards power users who take a lot of notes and want to capture notes in mixed medium - text, photos etc.

Also, since Simplenote is from Automatic, I am less worried about shown any advertisements or product changing radically.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by methusala8 »

jodrellblank wrote: post #167
sofixa wrote: post #113

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Obsidian. It's markdown based, so simple at the base, but you can go wild with plugins ( including latex, graph visualisations, dynamic queries across notes, etc.), and it supports metadata, tags, etc. if you want to. You can sync with anything supporting text files ( Git, Dropbox, Google Drive, etc) or pay a bit for their ens to end encrypted service that works great.

Dendron, it's like Obsidian (markdown based notes in files on your filesystem) but as a VS Code plugin, so it's also compatible with Git and other VS Code filetype extensions. https://www.dendron.so/ https://hn.algolia.com/?q=dendron

This.

After using Notion, Obsidian, Mem and other tools, I have settled down on this app. Solid community too.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by simonebrunozzi »

shrimp_emoji wrote: post #126
joshspankit wrote: post #94

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This is what I call “cashing out the social capital”. I don’t know if I’d call it a business model , but it’s certainly something that many modern businesses do.

Ah, so that's what Blizzard/Bethesda have been doing. :D

And what Notion will do really soon.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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tyrfing wrote: post #140
makecheck wrote: post #127

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My main issue with Notes right now is that somewhere along the way we became OK with software having no Undo at all , combined with the power to instantly sync your typo everywhere so it is truly gone forever , combined with UI that basically encourages accidents. So if I am perfect when typing with a tiny virtual keyboard, nothing goes wrong; otherwise, I could lose things in ways that are interpreted by the softwar…

It actually does have undo, something I know about from it frequently detecting waving my phone around as an attempt to undo.

Use three fingers swipe gesture from left to right. That’s also an undo action in Notes. From right to left is redo.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by jfdksjf4hfsfasa »

jitl wrote: post #160
grandchild wrote: post #72

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I find it telling that notion managed to break the core web concept of the hyperlink by implementing their own version of the tag. If I middle-click on a link to open it in a new tab, I paste-insert my clipboard content _into the link text_ instead (I'm on Linux). That's just horrible.

(I work at Notion) It's actually the browser's default behavior to do what you're describing! Inside a `contenteditable` element, links no longer behave as links -- they aren't clickable, and hovering over the link doesn't show a preview of the HREF attribute in the browsers I've tested. So in order for links to do link things, we have to fight the browser and re-implement these behaviors. Here's a codesandbox with n…

(not gp) Is there any way to track the progress of this? I would be very happy to see this fixed.

Btw, if links inside a contenteditable aren't supposed to behave as links, why make it clickable in the first place? Because if you make it act like a link, you indeed have to reimplement the whole thing because of expectations.

I'm no interaction designer, but imho a simple edit button would be mucher simpler. It could still be integrated nicely, no need to have wiki-like editing where the entire context is lost.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by [deleted] »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #24
savolai wrote: post #16

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There are two cults: * those who appreciate effortless UX that doesn't ask users to dedicate their lives to learning arcane systems i.e. CLI UIs but allow focusing on life outside computers. Notion is indeed a step forward for the industry for them. * those who appreciate the responsiveness of CLI and don't mind the learning curve since the investment for them is worth the price. For them, Notion probably doesn't giv…

You're just rambling... I can't even tell what you are trying to say. Slow down

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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by jitl »

jfdksjf4hfsfasa wrote: post #266
jitl wrote: post #160

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(I work at Notion) It's actually the browser's default behavior to do what you're describing! Inside a `contenteditable` element, links no longer behave as links -- they aren't clickable, and hovering over the link doesn't show a preview of the HREF attribute in the browsers I've tested. So in order for links to do link things, we have to fight the browser and re-implement these behaviors. Here's a codesandbox with n…

(not gp) Is there any way to track the progress of this? I would be very happy to see this fixed. Btw, if links inside a contenteditable aren't supposed to behave as links, why make it clickable in the first place? Because if you make it act like a link, you indeed have to reimplement the whole thing because of expectations. I'm no interaction designer, but imho a simple edit button would be mucher simpler. It could…

I think an edit button could improve Notion’s UX for small touchscreen devices where drag gesture is used for both scrolling and editing, but it would make the product worse for larger screen devices with precise pointing. It’s better to work hard in order to build the ideal product, than to make developers lives easy at the cost of a worse product.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by nicwolff »

criddell wrote: post #155
robviren wrote: post #73

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Syncthing and your favorite text editor has been great for me. Setup is fairly easy and you depend on no offical service other than people hosting a relay server which you could also host. A little more setup and DIY, but at least the experience will remain the same for a long time.

Evernote does a lot more than text. For me, the first killer feature was taking a picture of a whiteboard after a meeting. The photo metadata is indexed (date, time, location) and all the text in the photo is recognized as well. Evernote’s text recognition works better for me than any other solution I’ve tried, although Apple is getting pretty good at that too.

And Apple Notes will automatically name a note with the first words of the OCRed document – did Evernote get around to adding that feature after I gave up on it?

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by nicwolff »

cianmm wrote: post #103
thesimp wrote: post #26

As a long time Evernote user I can say that the move from Evernote 6.x to the 10.x version has been a bit of a rough ride. I still use Evernote everyday because I did not find any other note taking tools that fit my workflow. And changing workflows ingrained over many years takes a lot of effort. Then again there are some very irritating things in the new Evernote 10.x versions of which I am constantly thinking: "are…

The weird UI for moving notes to a new notebook gets me every single time. I’ve been looking for a good Evernote replacement for YEARS, but rely heavily on their OCR stuff to file well over a decade of important documents that I need to be able to call up fast. I’ve replaced text notes with Bear for years, but for scanning I’ve still got to use Evernote. And that god damned move note UI.

Apple Notes' OCR is about as good as Evernote's, and the bulk migration worked fine for me.

And Apple Notes will name a new scanned-document note with the first words of the OCR'ed text, which I don't think Evernote ever got around to.

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