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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by ryantgtg »

jolux wrote: post #236
ryantgtg wrote: post #231

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The right-voting populace just wants abortions to be illegal. Everything else that's going on is collateral damage. I know - well, not a lot, but a couple handfuls of - Trump supporters, and 100% of them vote for him because of his purported policies on abortion (and they all lamely defend him on his other actions). I think people underestimate how many voters are single-issue voters, and that this is THE issue. I wa…

You claim to want the things I want, and yet you seem to think that reporting on a spike in COVID cases in a small state due to a large event is comparable to Tucker Carlson shrugging and saying “eh, you can’t blame him” about Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha? They’re not even within the same realm of discourse.

I suspected you would conclude I was suggesting equivalence. I am not. I’m trying to discuss the role the media plays in furthering the divide. Many on the right are convinced that the Covid response is overblown and insincere. Can’t you see how this NPR - a supposed liberal media outlet - story, especially the tone of it, could be construed to play directly into that narrative? Hyper-partisanship is not a natural outcome, but is fed into our gullets because news has to be framed in ways that piss off both sides.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by twhitmore »

paxys wrote: post #19
redisman wrote: post #17

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He has a lot more power as the CEO of Facebook than "just" a retired billionaire. Which is what humans have craved since the dawn of time.

Not necessarily. Bill Gates has a lot more "power" today than he did as Microsoft CEO. And I bet his life is a lot easier as well.

I totally understand this. I believe BG's ability to influence, guide and sway global efforts must be enormous. I would think he can probably setup a call with any leader in the world.

Some people only understand "power" in the sense of military or corporate decisions. (This is where Trump misses the big idea.) But imagine how powerful it is to be able to set the agenda, and have most of the world follow you and agree to commit resources in the direction you set.

I would say soft power generally beats hard power, due to being more efficient in terms of costs, creating more buy-in and generating less resistance.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by jokethrowaway »

lukaa wrote: post #86
stickfigure wrote: post #54

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I entered into parenthood with similar trepidation, but my fears turned out to be unjustified. It definitely means having different experiences, but it's waaaay more fun than I thought it would be.

There is nothing from evolutionary point of view more important than having children. It would be highly unusual if nature didn't make that experience overall speaking as one of best things in life.

Being a parent with two small kids in a foreign country and no family support (plus, you know, the usual global pandemic), it has definitely been the worse experience of my life. My wife doesn't work, money is not a problem but the lack of sleep and freedom to do a lot of things is hard to swallow.

Nature plays a big role in it: I really felt like having kids (which surprised me) and I sure will do everything I can to protect them, but my life is a constant fight with depression.

There is probably the opposite mechanism at play: having invested years of pain in them, you value your kids the more time passes.

I'm sure things will improve once they're 4-5 and they're a bit better behaved / we can start sleeping again / we can start having some time for ourselves as well.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by jolux »

ryantgtg wrote: post #261
jolux wrote: post #236

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You claim to want the things I want, and yet you seem to think that reporting on a spike in COVID cases in a small state due to a large event is comparable to Tucker Carlson shrugging and saying “eh, you can’t blame him” about Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha? They’re not even within the same realm of discourse.

I suspected you would conclude I was suggesting equivalence. I am not. I’m trying to discuss the role the media plays in furthering the divide. Many on the right are convinced that the Covid response is overblown and insincere. Can’t you see how this NPR - a supposed liberal media outlet - story, especially the tone of it, could be construed to play directly into that narrative? Hyper-partisanship is not a natural ou…

COVID is extremely serious, you and I both know this. Accurate reporting on it is going to sound overblown if you're convinced it's not a problem. What would you suggest the news do? Pretend it's not an issue at all?

Also not sure which article in particular you are referring to, but the one I found doesn't seem sensationalistic at all:

"'I think it's still a little early to really know how this is going to play out,' says Dr. Marcus Plescia, chief medical officer for the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials." — https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/0...

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by caycep »

lexapro wrote: post #177
caycep wrote: post #160

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I was going to point out that BMW is still family run...but then again, I realize that BMW isn't also a publicly traded company...and subject to public regulation thereof...

BMW is a public company

oops, I should have looked it up beforehand. But somehow, the Quandt family maintains a lot of control over the company despite this?

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by Yetanfou »

karpierz wrote: post #108
Yetanfou wrote: post #101

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It isn't problematic, just silly. There is no need to police other people's thoughts as long as they keep within the bounds of the law. He is even free to express those thoughts, within the bounds of the law, just like people are free to hollder 'death to America' during demonstrations in Oakland. One of the pillars of a well-functioning state is that things which are not forbidden by law are allowed. It might not be…

I'm confused, you started the argument off by claiming that spreading PizzaGate isn't problematic and then went into a series of arguments for why it should be legal? Can legal things not be problematic?

I'm confused by your confusion given the fact that I clearly stated that whatever someone says has to be within the bounds of the law. As far as I can see there is no room for confusion here, freedom of expression is bounded by certain laws which forbid a number of things. As long as you don't violate those laws you can say whatever you want.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by mam2 »

moralestapia wrote: post #158
mam2 wrote: post #152

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> Also Gates, to put it in very uncharitable terms, has shown that it doesn't matter if you're seen as a hated, greedy CEO as long as you do enough philanthropy later in life. Well this is a weird way of assuming theres some sort of need to redeem yourself after having been "perceived" in a way by some (possibly) retards. At that point its just easier to not care at all what people think. And its actually healthier..…

>having been "perceived" in a way by some (possibly) [redacted] Perhaps you're a young man. Warranted or not, 90s Gates was the prototype for the asshole tech CEO. Only Larry Ellison came close, and that's saying something ...

> Perhaps you're a young man.

The funny thing with condescending people is that they are so sure of their opinions, and usually as you did not, provide no argument to their cause.

The point is that any CEO or person in a competitive environement is going to be attacked for using aggressives practices at some point and winning.. but that's ultimately the definition of the game, especially in business.

I've read a great bit of Gates' life and never found anything really so unethical or unhuman. Seriously the guy sis not Assad. It was just business. And it's kilometers away from Uber practices and Apple having their smartphones built by children in China.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by mam2 »

freehunter wrote: post #154
mam2 wrote: post #152

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> Also Gates, to put it in very uncharitable terms, has shown that it doesn't matter if you're seen as a hated, greedy CEO as long as you do enough philanthropy later in life. Well this is a weird way of assuming theres some sort of need to redeem yourself after having been "perceived" in a way by some (possibly) retards. At that point its just easier to not care at all what people think. And its actually healthier..…

I’m sure there is a way to phrase that same thought without disparaging the mentally disabled.

You are the one disparaging them by thinking its a negative comment.
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