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Ask HN: How do you switch off from work, particularly when working from home?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you switch off from work, particularly when working from home?

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I'm also in a 1BR apartment with my partner. I have a desk in the corner (having previously done some WFH when needed) and my partner works on the dining table. I personally don't follow any of the "back to the routine" habits or any special apps or anything. I sometimes need to work a little later to finish a specific task, but otherwise when 5 o'clock rolls around that's it. 5PM, I get up and start dinner. I break…

Same. Two people in the house each with only one desk for work and personal use.

I work 9-5. I close my work laptop at 5pm, and ignore all notifications outside that time.

There are a few things that help, I guess:

1. I have no real motivation to work into the evening. It's not like making yet another CRUD app is that interesting. But, there's also no pressure from my job to work long hours.

2. There's tons of stuff I want to get to outside of work, whether it's exercise, video games, TV, reading, cooking/baking, napping, personal projects, or whatever

3. My GF and I always eat dinner at the table together, which helps keep us accountable.

Re: Ask HN: How do you switch off from work, particularly when working from home?

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I generally don't have this problem (I've been working mostly from home for 3 or 4 years now), but here are some things that can be helpful. You'll probably note a theme of "boundaries". This isn't all that different conceptually from setting healthy boundaries in order to maintain a work/life balance in normal office-going times, but some of the specifics can change when you're working and living in the same space.

* Have a separate computer for work and personal stuff. Don't have your work email/Slack/whatever signed in and loaded on your personal computer.

* Delete work apps/accounts (Slack, work email) from your phone. Especially now since you're home nearly all the time, you don't need them on your phone anyway. If you're signed into any web apps on your phone, sign out of them.

* Set yourself time limits. You work between X:00 and Y:00 every day. When Y:00 comes, you shut down the work computer and do something else. If this is too inflexible, set yourself a 30-60 minute range, and when you hit the beginning of that range -- set an alarm if you need it -- be mindful of what you're working on and make sure you can wind it down by the end of the time period. You can also try to schedule phone/video calls or other socially-distant activities for right around your stop time to force you to stop and get into another mindset.

* When work is done, put everything work-related away. If you tend to keep paper notes or use a whiteboard, find a place to put them so you can't see them.

* When you stop working, go outside and go for a walk. It doesn't have to be long; just 30 or even 15 minutes is fine. Don't be on your phone while you walk. Just walk around outside and take in the atmosphere. (Obviously if you are in a COVID-vulnerable group, be careful, and don't go out if you don't feel comfortable with it.)

* Wear different clothes when you're working vs. not.

* I get that you have a relatively small space overall, but if you can keep a consistent work area (that you don't generally use for other non-work things all that much), try to keep to your workspace while working, and keep out of it while not working.

* In your free time, adopt activities that occupy your mind. Whether that's reading a book, learning a language, or whatever, it's up to you. Mindless web browsing will make it easy for your brain to drift back to work, but if you're doing something mentally engaging, it's more likely work thoughts won't intrude.

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post #192

I watched a YouTube video and this person explained a really neat concept. Your life is like a game. In this game, you have different stats and you must increase each stat. For example, in a typical game you may have: - Health - Attack Level - Money - Magic Level In games, you try to increase each of these stats to create the best and strongest character. Life is very similar, but the stats are: - Work - Social Life…

Actually in games usually poorly balanced characters do the best, i.e. adding all your points to strength. Might be true in life as well, especially with hyper-specialization being the only way to stand out in a super competitive landscape.

ok, so then hyper-specialize then reproduce at age 85.

Re: Ask HN: How do you switch off from work, particularly when working from home?

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post #192

I watched a YouTube video and this person explained a really neat concept. Your life is like a game. In this game, you have different stats and you must increase each stat. For example, in a typical game you may have: - Health - Attack Level - Money - Magic Level In games, you try to increase each of these stats to create the best and strongest character. Life is very similar, but the stats are: - Work - Social Life…

I don't think this would work for me — tracking time spent relaxing feels counterintuitive! I have some hobbies with intrinsic goals outside work (sport / music) where I want to improve over time but I actively avoid trying to quantise too much & make it a different kind of work.

I found time tracking works VERY WELL going into the relaxation phase. It's just ending the relaxation phase where it's gets more challenging.

Re: Ask HN: How do you switch off from work, particularly when working from home?

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Even in your 1BR apartment, can you make a spot is that is your "work" spot? A desk in a corner that you always work at, and don't use for anything but work? Having a specific location for "work", that when I leave I am no longer "at work", is what has worked for me. I've been working from home since before the pandemic, and some people are like "oh that's great, you can go work at coffeeshops" -- but I didn't do tha…

>A desk in a corner that you always work at, and don't use for anything but work? // Hmm, I don't have any friends wealthy enough to have enough room in their house for 2 desk spaces for themselves. Your comment seems like a 'they have no bread? why don't they eat brioche' kinda of comment; ignorant of how most people live. My boss, who makes about 50% more than me, works on a desk in his daughters bedroom; my boss'…

My friends are definitely not wealthy, many of them are struggling, but I guess my city is cheaper and people have more living space, most (not all) people I know have enough room to put a chair and small desk/table big enough for laptop use in the corner of a bedroom or living room. (I do not live in NYC. It's also true that most of my friends don't have children, which may be relevant to available space. I don't know about OP, or you).

I don't know about "two desks", nobody I know uses a home desk for anything BUT work. If you have one desk, you could designate it for work, and not do other things there. Don't do work on the couch or where you eat your meals (if that's somewhere other than a couch), only do it at the desk, and don't do other things there (pay your bills or whatever on the couch or whatever). Is what I was suggesting.

I see now that many other comments on this thread also suggest finding a way to have a dedicated workspace, so it's not just me.

If you do have room for a desk, but can't avoid using it for things other than work too, perhaps it would be helpful to keep all non-work things off the desk when you are working, and all work things off the desk when you are not, to help separate it.

But I'm sorry my ideas were inapplicable to your situation and thus offensive to you.

Re: Ask HN: How do you switch off from work, particularly when working from home?

#268

This trick might sound strange, but it worked well for me: Just dress the same in the morning as you would if you would go into the office, and at the end of the day, take off the work clothes and dress as you would normally at home. Some makes this even further and go out for a walk around the block so they "arrive at the office" and walk again at the end of the day to "walk home". Really sounds strange and funny, b…

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Re: Ask HN: How do you switch off from work, particularly when working from home?

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This trick might sound strange, but it worked well for me: Just dress the same in the morning as you would if you would go into the office, and at the end of the day, take off the work clothes and dress as you would normally at home. Some makes this even further and go out for a walk around the block so they "arrive at the office" and walk again at the end of the day to "walk home". Really sounds strange and funny, b…

>Just dress the same in the morning as you would if you would go into the office, and at the end of the day, take off the work clothes and dress as you would normally at home

Tech bro problems: These are the exact same things for me

Re: Ask HN: How do you switch off from work, particularly when working from home?

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post #42

What: Reading, music (I dabble with synths), TV Series. How: What I usually do is work until a fixed time, and then have a hard stop. Do some laundry, check out a YouTube video on the couch, etc. If there is anything really urgent, I can pick up again, but the physicality of getting away from the computer and doing something else helps A LOT.

> music (I dabble with synths), When you say dabble, do you mean doing sound design or doing song compositions?

Both. Right now I'm going through learning sound design on new hardware, but I also use Logic to try my hand at some compositions (mostly instrumental intros right now).
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