Me?
I don't use Facebook. I consider Google evil and harmful and avoid them. On my phone I run my own apps, and apps from F-Droid - I don't even register with Google. I have a shit-list of companies I will never work for (Oracle, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon and every Government entity anywhere in the world). I browse the net from VM's with specific purposes (one for HN). I use Tor for most browsing, including reading news. If I have to provide data somewhere, I make sure it's incorrect.
I host my own content on my own servers, or on rented VM's (not AWS). I host my personal home-page on a VM hosted by a pro freedom of speech NGO, that will go to great measures to keep it on-line, no matter what.
I hosted my own content long before Facebook was even a sexist rating site for stolen pictures of pretty girls. I will host it long after Facebook is history and mostly forgotten :)
The internet is only closed for those who choose convenience before freedom.
Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?
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Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?
#262Make your website of record your website. Make social media platforms and others (e.g. Google) secondary to that. Don't let Google and Facebook control how you build your website. I am amazed at companies that take their websites and subjugate them to their Facebook page. You may gain social attention but you are handing over control. Never, ever, ever say to contact me go to facebook.com/xxxx or my email address is…
In the near future, use DApps (Decentralized Applications) a few of them are already up and running.
Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?
#263Make your website of record your website. Make social media platforms and others (e.g. Google) secondary to that. Don't let Google and Facebook control how you build your website. I am amazed at companies that take their websites and subjugate them to their Facebook page. You may gain social attention but you are handing over control. Never, ever, ever say to contact me go to facebook.com/xxxx or my email address is…
I was with you until logins. I'm tired of creating accounts and managing umpteen million passwords.
I only know two passwords: one for my password manager and one to unlock my computer.
Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?
#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
And the founder of Neocities thinks it's time to instate a distributed web https://blog.neocities.org/blog/2015/09/08/its-time-for-the-...
ok how will neocities or anybody hosting a node be compensated? How will the artists whose works are being distributed in this manner be compensated?
With some sort of "proof of upstream" cryptocurrency that trickles a percentage back to the content's origin node along with other nodes in between. Users would earn credits by leaving their devices connected and forwarding data, paying most of it back into the network when downloading data.
The original uploaders of very popular content would accumulate a surplus of credits, which they then sell to to mega-crawlers. Content creators would do well to be the original uploaders of their own content on such a network.
The credits would also be incentive to buy devices and leave them running in poor-coverage areas. E.g. the owners of billboards could mount repeaters along rural highways.
Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?
#265We need local bookmarking and indexing tools that can become primary to search. You have no idea how many times I end up searching the same thing over and over again. I'm using the search engine as a bookmarking tool. If there were more streamlined, humane, well designed local bookmarking tools, that wouldn't be an issue. As a matter of fact, the fact that the browser by default sends everything I type into that bar…
What can you say about this beta: https://bubblehunt.com?
Bubblehunt is the search platform, where you can get free and personal search engine for your bookmarks and other information that you think is interesting.
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#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
When has this actually happened? And by this I mean that out of nowhere Facebook suddenly has deleted someone's page and then not restored it? I get what you are suggesting, but I can't help but to think you are making this way bigger issue than it actually is. Also all of you are missing the most obvious point: if it hasn't happened to a lot (and I mean literally more than 10-20% of user base) it is not a significan…
Good luck posting some controversial point of view on Facebook or similar platforms. They'll axe you in the blink of an eye. It's real. It happens all the time. I have seen it again and again.
I may have a business one day that sells bits for model steam locos. Many people who are likely to be my customers belong to a facebook group, and probably don't use their PCs much except for facebook and e-mail.
And if I needed to post a controversial point of view on my model steam loco business page, I've got bigger problems than facebook.
I can't stand facebook, but for my purposes it is probably the cheapest, most direct, and low effort way for those people to get to me. It's also probably pretty low effort on my part.
The business would never be more than a cottage industry and I certainly wouldn't want to spend ANY money on IT that I could avoid.
Anyone here offering to donate their time to keep all my IT in order for the same cost I can do it with facebook, and give me the exposure it will to my potential customers?
If so I'll give you my gmail address to get in contact ;)
Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?
#267I ignore facebook entirely, use duckduckgo for search, and pay for journalism.
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#268You're hosting your stuff on Github so you are part of the problem. Fix that before you start talking.
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Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?
#270Make your website of record your website. Make social media platforms and others (e.g. Google) secondary to that. Don't let Google and Facebook control how you build your website. I am amazed at companies that take their websites and subjugate them to their Facebook page. You may gain social attention but you are handing over control. Never, ever, ever say to contact me go to facebook.com/xxxx or my email address is…
> You may gain social attention but you are handing over control. Yeah it's a tradeoff and for many people giving up that control is worth it.
No it's not. They think it's worth it until the negative aspects catch up to them. Then they weep.
Due to some unexplainable optimism, people always believe that injustice won't happen to them. Just like with car accidents. And just like with car accidents, there should be some sort of "insurance" against unforeseen douchebaggery.
It's like this : - let's say there's a 1% chance of FaceGoogle abuse for anyone - when faced with that 1% chance, most people (99,99%) will choose to forego the insurance - 0.99% of people are now vulnerable to injustice
People are not as rational as we'd like. We don't have a very good sense of how likely something is to happen, especially when the probabilities get smaller.