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Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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Post by agnishom »

IgorPartola wrote: post #48

Nobody wants to label their stuff as AI generated because they removed credibility. Communities can flag posts as AI generated based on speculation and telltales but it won’t be 100% and will take extra work. I think the era of the blog is simply dead now and that’s mostly ok. Blogspam and corporate blogs had killed quality bogs ages ago even before AI was a thing. The real question is what replaces it. Oh and of cou…

> it is accurate and interesting, do you care who wrote it?

Yes, because I have an interest in traces and mechanisms of human connections being preserved.

Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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Post by mh- »

dang wrote: post #228
mh- wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Apologies if you've commented on the following already, but I've not seen it.) The most concerning growing trend I see is comments that don't violate any guidelines, but are flagged to dead. I'm not talking about posters that are shadowbanned, but about comments that engaged thoughtfully on a topic but the rest of the thread disagreed emphatically with. I also don't even mean controversial takes on hot-button issues…

I'd need to see specific links, but many of those posts are probably being killed because our software classified them as being genai, which is not allowed on HN (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#generated and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079 .)

In the meantime, here's one I saw recently:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48660796

Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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Post by teiferer »

It is not black or white. Many articles start with a human brainstorming the content, maybe writing a rough draft, and then AI filling gaps or just polishing the language. Maybe the author isn't a native speaker or has dylexia. It's hard to draw a line.

Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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Post by arjie »

el_io wrote: post #212
simonreiff wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why don't you say how you really feel instead of being so wishy-washy?

They are pretty clear about how they feel.

It’s an English language idiom that always trips me up. Here’s another example: https://englishidiomsblog.blogspot.com/2010/10/tell-us-how-y...

The idiom is someone says “tell us how you really feel” (which he’s rephrased here) to express (I think) that one’s expressed opinion is far too dramatic in its opposition of some thing. It’s meant to be read ironically.

Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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Post by arjie »

ramon156 wrote: post #234

I made a personal extension just for that :) if I find a person to be mostly posting AI generated information I will blacklist them from my feed. Works on a personal level, unsure if this would work well in practice. Maybe just a tag is enough, so people can conclude for themselves. I know there are extensions out there that are doing the democratic part right. Mostly YouTube-related extensions like DeArrow and Spons…

Have you made your blocklist public? I would like it please.

Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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Post by MagicMoonlight »

petesergeant wrote: post #233
asdff wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Put it this way, if the ai article is indeed so good, why store the article in a dusty long form output mode from a soon to be obsolete model? Just give us the prompt, and in 6 months with some newer, bigger, better model, we can feed that prompt and get an even better article out of it.

The fallacy here is that you can't reduce the wide range of things that “AI generated” means into a single flag. As for why not “show us the prompt”: https://sgnt.ai/p/prompt-is-not-the-work/

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Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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Post by teiferer »

sph wrote: post #167
pixl97 wrote: post #131

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Isn't that what the vote system is? If the users are selecting low quality then what exactly?

Then we are fucked. A quality platform must strive for more quality than what the average lurker, likely a bot, decides is worth reading. That’s how you get modern Reddit. Is the goal of this site to remain high-quality, or to rely on random, anonymous users to discern quality? Consider the possibility that the two options might be incompatible.

It might come as a surprise to you, but "random anonymous users discerning quality" is exactly how this site operates and that's working pretty well.

Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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Post by itsgrimetime »

I don’t have a problem with labeling them. I would love to see more engagement with the content regardless of how it was written, though. I know a lot of folks do but I feel like I’ve been seeing more and more instant dismissal/criticism of how it was written rather than what the submission is actually about.

Re: Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles

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Post by dang »

mh- wrote: post #252
dang wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd need to see specific links, but many of those posts are probably being killed because our software classified them as being genai, which is not allowed on HN (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#generated and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079 .)

In the meantime, here's one I saw recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48660796

That definitely wasn't a genai-related issue but the kind of issue it was is a knot that I'm too tired to untangle right now!
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