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Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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Post by DharmaPolice »

brewdad wrote: post #191
vunderba wrote: post #103

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This already happens now. Go look through a few of the "Show HN" authors - you'll inevitably see around several accounts that are 50-100 days old with a karma of 1 to avoid a green label. The OP is talking about posts, not comments. The simplest solution might be to prevent someone from posting a "Show HN" until they’ve earned twenty-five or fifty karma, to demonstrate that they’ve been actively participating on Hack…

This leads inevitably to karma farming bots who upvote each other’s submissions à la Reddit. It’s a speed bump at best.

A speed bump might still be preferable to nothing.

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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Post by macintux »

Lerc wrote: post #211
krapp wrote: post #68

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>Losing that seems too high of a price to pay. Assuming the mods just auto-ban new accounts and require them to be vouched and to earn minimum karma before being visible, those comments can be vouched up or approved by the moderators. The poster won't know that they've been banned, of course, because that's how shadowbanning works, so the approval process should be seamless for them. But how often does that happen ve…

>those comments are malicious in effect if not intent. I don't believe that is possible. I think malice requires intent.

Sufficiently advanced destructiveness is indistinguishable from malice.

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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Post by blks »

thutch76 wrote: post #248

I'm very wary of this request, though I understand it. I've been reading HN daily since around 2014. My involvement was purely passive (e.g., I have been a lurker) because I really didn't think I had much to contribute that wasn't already stated better by others. I didn't actually create my account until 2021? 2022? I can't remember. And I didn't make my first post or even comment until just last week. While I think…

Just write the text yourself, not many people enjoy reading AI-generated posts, even edited.

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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Post by [deleted] »

jsunderland323 wrote: post #246

I’ve been mulling over this for a couple of days too. I have a project I want to share with the HN community that I put a substantial amount of effort into but it was definitely AI assisted (as is literally everything today). I’ve read all of the source and I drove the architecture but it would be a stretch to say I didn’t ask for assistance on things that felt fuzzy or foreign to me. I also have generally stopped ty…

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Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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Post by Rapzid »

rpcope1 wrote: post #144
robotresearcher wrote: post #43

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You're absolutely right.

You know it's bad when reading "you're absolutely right..." causes you to oscillate between wanting to laugh and also violently destroy the computer.

You are viewing this through exactly the right lens. But here is the kicker..

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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Post by [deleted] »

vel0city wrote: post #79
BalinKing wrote: post #64

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Sorry, updated my original comment—I meant to qualify it to only those cases where it's blatantly obvious. Obviously a lot of ambiguous comments will slip through as a result, but I agree with you that false negatives are better than false positives.

Your comments use em dashes. Many would claim those are vastly overrepresented in AI language and thus an account overly using them are blatantly AI. I don't think your account is AI just by these few comments, but I would like to point out that most rubrics one might use to determine what is obviously AI might end up including the way you talk. If there was a truly accurate tell, some algorithm you could feed a few…

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Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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Post by Waterluvian »

trinsic2 wrote: post #196
magicalhippo wrote: post #149

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The problem is that we might lose some gold. Not too seldom have I seen the author or a significant party of a story chime in through a fresh green account, as they were alerted by the story being posted here one way or another. And usually when they do it's very interesting. As such I would find it detrimental if they had to jump through too many hoops so they don't bother or it takes too long so the thread dies bef…

I think the right people will stick around. There is a certain kind of indivudal that has the paitence to understand that a system that restricts new accounts from post is a good thing. Of recent, there have been a lot of posters that come here from the open web just to try and slant opinion.

The SA Forums model does accomplish the goals of filtering out noise, but then you’re stuck with a stagnant community of “the right people.”
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