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Re: Ask HN: What side projects landed you a job?

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Around 2008/2009 I was working in a public relations position, and web development was still just a hobby for me. My boss owned a pro volleyball team, one of my responsibilities was managing an online community for fans. Every time we needed changes to the community forums, we had to hire external devs who were very slow and very expensive. So I explained my boss that I could code and asked if I could just do the cha…

What does a hotel director do all day? Does it require training? Customer interactions? Is it technical or social in nature?

As you can tell from my post above, I have only had this role temporarily so I'm not an expert.

Based on my experience, you have a few people that report to you from the different teams (reception, cleaning, maintenance, kitchen, sales etc.) - what you actually do depends a lot on the size of the hotel and on how large those teams are; in a small B&B you are probably doing some of those tasks yourself, but in a larger hotel there will be different teams and you are purely in a management position.

The amount and frequency of customer interaction also depends on the hotel size.

Whether it is more technical or social depends on the above. And it also depends on whether you consider management itself to be a technical or social skill.

Edit - regarding training: I have seen people in this field who had hospitality management degrees so I suppose that's the most common path.

Re: Ask HN: What side projects landed you a job?

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Back in 2005, when I was still living in Poland and working as a developer after graduating uni. I started contributing to a GPLed L4-microkernel-based hypervisor targeting ARM-based embedded devices called Codezero. I was just interested in micro-kernels and it allowed me to play with an actual working project. I've got a job offer from the founder and worked remotely on it for 3 years, when the company was acquired by nVidia and I got a H1B and moved to Silicon Valley, which pretty much changed my life.

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After 3 years of graduation, I wanted to go into web development, so I built a few good projects that helped me land a job. I built a Typeform clone, using Vanilla CSS and NextJS, in its GitHub repo, I also added PR GitHub actions check for eslint and prettier, and also added pre-commit checks. I also got 29 stars and 6 forks on that repo - https://github.com/hsnice16/forming-typeform/tree/main

Another project that I built was a component library using HTML and CSS, so I built this to learn HTML and CSS in a better way. Its repo also has 6 forks and 7 stars - https://github.com/hsnice16/PoshUI-Documentation

Re: Ask HN: What side projects landed you a job?

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A long time ago sonos didn't support apple airplay. I did some protocol reversing and wrote a small program that pretended to be an airplay speaker to pipe audio to a sonos speaker (archive: https://github.com/stephen/airsonos ) I ended up getting recruiting messages from both the airplay team at apple and some folks from sonos. I didn't end up taking either offer, but it was also an interesting talking point when in…

Sorry but this sounds like LARP, who the hell wouldnt jump on a job offer from apple? Even if it doesnt work out, having Apple on your resume wouldve been an insane career booster, telling people you got an offer from them but didnt take it sounds very unbelievable, atleast personally, I wouldnt have believed you

I would never work for Apple, they are an extremely user-hostile company who bankrolls off of child labor in impoverished countries.

Re: Ask HN: What side projects landed you a job?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everyone is willing to uproot their life on a whim, even for a theoretically great job and a theoretically great company.

Im sure "uproot your life and dedicate it to Apple" isnt on the job description and apple is very flexible with this stuff. You think all 164,000 apple employees live in silicon valley?

Apple has many large offices outside of silicon valley.

Re: Ask HN: What side projects landed you a job?

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I created an online fan forum for The X-Files back in 1993 on the Delphi vax-based network as the web was starting to emerge. I created ASCII art of logos and stuff since it was a text-based menu-driven system. Newscorp bought the company and their marketing managers started asking me to create ASCII art for them. It turned out my fan forum was the biggest on the service with 25,000 members (that was a lot back then.) This got the attention of executives who wanted to use this new digital medium to market their properties not just for FOX Broadcasting but TV Guide, Harper Collins, FOX Film, FX Cable Network, etc. They decided to create a web-based online service to do it and hired me away from my job as a lab researcher working on gene therapy and moved me to Los Angeles to create and run the official X-Files web site. They liked me because I knew the tech and what fans wanted. I basically invented what was then the TV/film marketing web site. All I really did was assess what marketing resources were available and figure out a way to put them online. I was literally the first person to put TV show trailers online Not film trailers, just TV. No one thought anyone cared enough about T shows to download a 1.4MB 320x240 TV spot over 14400bps. Crazy times. I spent $1000 on the video capture card to digitize tv spots on VHS tapes they sent me. This was when the Pentium 90 had just come out. They never followed through creating the web-based online service for Newscorp, but since I had created a web site and online community with millions of users I ended up managing all of the web sites for the television network (and coded most of them) and even worked on sites like FOX Sports when it first came out and became the goto guy on the FOX lot when it came to online content and understanding what the fans wanted out of web sites. I moved on to create and work on ecommerce sites during the dot com boom, later worked on the original Star Wars Battlefront 1 and 2 and created the mod tools (the classic/good ones), worked for Sony Pictures Imageworks Interactive ultimately Sony PlayStation where I managed the production on all of the PS1 Classics available for digital download as well as some less notable stuff. That was my last full time job. Today I can't get a fulltime or even freelance job to save my life, despite nearly three decades of experience managing technology initiatives and software production that generated tens of millions in revenue. Entertainment is a different beast, you age out if you aren't an executive, and other industries don't seem to care about transferrable skills unless you're an individual contributor (programmer).

Re: Ask HN: What side projects landed you a job?

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I wrote an open source clone of a mini game back in 2015 when it was just released. Mostly use HTML5 canvas and websocket. Not really optimized so the server would start lagging and every player are moving like they’re teleporting every ticks.

Also moved to the US at that time, searching for a job for months after that. Finally, one company was using the same tech stack got interested and we had a good talk about it during the interview, and they offered me the job.

I was close to give up my dream of working as a programmer until that point (you know, when you moved to a new country, with a family to support, you can’t just do interview forever, the most possible option for me at that time was to work at a restaurant or something like that).

Re: Ask HN: What side projects landed you a job?

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Not exactly a side project, but same idea:

After not getting a faculty job (and after a couple of postdocs) a wrote an essay about failure in academia. At the urging of a friend, I pitched it to a place that liked it and published it. The response was really surprising to me, all the kind random messages I got. And someone asked if I wanted to apply for a job opening they had, teaching writing at a university. A couple of weeks later I had moved and was in the classroom, the last place I expected to be. It was teaching in an area I never expected and not research in my field, but I've always enjoyed the teaching part of university life.

And that story, along with all the rest here, is what I tell my students about putting work out there. Good and surprising things happen!

Re: Ask HN: What side projects landed you a job?

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BrowserBox^0 landed me a couple of contracts related to web scraping, RPA, process integration and dashboards, but there were quite a few more whose contracts I had to refuse because they came with "grabby" IP clauses, like: "we will own everything you work on while engaged with us, including any related work", which completely tried to disrespect and attempted to abuse the IP protections I sought to create by putting my open-source work: 1) out there in the open, 2) under the protection of a C corporation, and 3) with both AGPL and commercial licenses available.

At first I couldn't believe this would be a thing done by US companies (I thought maybe people in other parts of the world would have tried this, but no), but ultimately I had to face the unpalatable reality that indeed they were trying to unethically trick me into surrendering my IP by using grabby IP clauses.

When I pushed back and went through multiple rounds of contract clause negotiation, their grabby language only got more extreme in iteration (to a ridiculous degree), essentially a legal "fuck you" to standing up for myself and my rights.

Essentially a ploy to try to use an employment contract to own all my OSS work, and when I brought up ways to clarify and mutually protect IP on both sides from any such contamination, they resisted, and ultimately refused. SMH disgusting experience.

I think the most offensive thing about this was that they thought I was such a rube that I could be tricked by that, and also that it demonstrated they would try this with others. I hate the idea that little OSS developers out there were seen as inexperienced rubes to be taken advantage of. It's so hurtful. What about all the other folks out there who weren't canny enough to protect themselves, or even read through the contracts?

For reference this is not just "default clauses". I've signed many contracts that had zero grabby "own everything related" IP clauses at all, in multiple US jurisdictions. This is entirely an optional thing and does not need to be included, especially not in the circumstances I was in. The resistance in the face of subsequent negotiations, only strongly supports the idea that this is a deliberate ploy. Please respect that I'm not going to name and shame specifics tho right now, I think there's other more apt responses. Consider the experiences related here a warning enough to be careful with how you protect your IP in your own dealings, no matter who you deal with.

Sometimes the public face a company presents is so different to how they conduct themselves. Disgusting.

0: https://github.com/BrowserBox/BrowserBox

Re: Ask HN: What side projects landed you a job?

#260

I wrote a Dropbox-like file sync and share application called Syncany [1] as a side project back in 2014/2015. While it never made it out of alpha, it had gotten some traction, and looking back, I am still proud of the architecture and design (not so much of the code, hehe). One day, a developer from this random company in Connecticut (I am German and lived in Germany at the time) reached out to me in my project's IR…

That's crazy about the missed reply. Maybe it was just email filters influencing fate! An abomination, but fascinating. Cool story! :)
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