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Re: Ask HN: What's on your home server?

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post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who gets caught in the occasional "could you just fix x – what do you mean y is not working? It always worked before you got here"-trap, essentially signing up to run your parents entire smart home setup, indefinitely, feels like some special kind of hell.

My choice with their new house was pretty simple. They wanted a smart home, and being the tech son I would inevitably have to help them at some point. So either I debug a system that is open and familiar, with remote access and reliable software/hardware. Or I deal with some closed proprietary trash which will end-up with me on the phone with some incompetent cash grab company. As mentioned in my post, the latter wou…

I had a few questions if you don't mind answering as I'm doing something similar for a vacation home (and my own, but this is more relevant to the remote one).

    How many IoT devices are you working with?  
I don't have the best router up north and some of my lousier routers can't handle more than about 25 devices before they start crapping the bed.

    Do they disconnect often from your router (and do the successfully reconnect)?
Similar router problem, though I've found some of the more finickier devices I own can have problems in my home where I have a number of options for connections.

    If you haven't had these problems, what router are you using?

    What about "the internet is down"?
This was less of an issue when everything was Z-Wave/ZigBee, but all of the cheap stuff is WiFi. This mostly only concerns "the lights" and "the plugs". I don't want a switch to stop being able to control devices it's not directly attached to if home assistant or the target device can't reach the internet. All of the ones that I own broadcast state and can accept commands via UDP over the local network so I was thinking of writing something that HA could call, locally, which would issue those commands and receive the statuses (so they'd always be local-only).

Re: Ask HN: What's on your home server?

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Not my home but my parent's (as I'm a "nomad"). They recently built a new house and put me in charge of the tech with a handsome budget, so I built a rack just like it would be my place. Ended up costing 1/4th of what other "smart home" companies quoted. We got way better bang for the buck and software capabilities. On the server/NAS, a QNAP TS-464eU (4x 4TB HDD RAID 5 + 2x 1TO SSD RAID 1), I'm running Container Stat…

My inlaws built a new house 3-4 years ago, a fairly nice, modern house. But, the whole tech side felt like it was using technology that was dated in the '90s.

TV going into a Receiver in the next room, and DVD+Apple TV connected to that receiver. 5 channel audio from the receiver. Several zones of in-ceiling speakers also run by the receiver. Some "knock off" Logitech-like smart remote control, because it's easy for the installer to program, but fairly hard to use and not something we can customize. CCTV cameras connected by coax to a central controller, I think the resolution is 640x480. One simple WiFi AP to try to cover the whole 4600sqft house.

For my own home, I went with a Google TV with soundbar and HDMI+CEC and get full control with a single remote. For full house audio I use a combination of Google Home speakers and portable bluetooth speakers. Much simpler and flexible.

Re: Ask HN: What's on your home server?

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I will probably get downvoted for this (unless, as I expect, the vast majority are in the same boat), but my answer is: nothing. I don't mean this to discredit people who actually run home servers, just sharing my own experience.

I have a "prosumer" grade £120 ASUS gigabit router, which has a perfectly adequate settings UI, firewall, port forwarding, and supports NAS via a USB HDD, or 4G failover if I ever happen to need it. No need to overpay for fancy business/enterprise grade networking equipment - plug it in, and it works.

Photos/videos are stored in Google Photos for £1.99/mo - I'd happily pay more if I exceed the 200gb limit I currently have iirc, but most of this is junk I won't ever access again that got backed up from my phone, eg screenshots that I took to send in Messenger/WhatsApp and forgot to delete afterwards.

Pretty much anything else that I do with a computer only has to be done when the computer is turned on. Having a separate server running drawing 100-200w at all times (even when we're in the office or sleeping, which is >2/3rds of the day) considering current energy prices, seems like a massive waste of money. 100w 24/7 for a year costs £300 at the current energy price cap (which most tariffs are currently at or around). I can't remember the last time me and my partner needed simultaneous access to the same files via the network, or I needed instantaneous access to a file on my MacBook or Android phone that is on my Windows/Fedora desktop, so another reason I don't see any need a NAS or server.

Wrt movies (Plex/DLNA/Kodi) there's very few films I like enough to want to watch again, that aren't included in Netflix, Amazon, or Disney's library. Hence there are very few that I own physical disc copies of, and I can just play the disc on the PS5, or my PC's bluray writer, or the upstairs TV, so no need to back these up onto a HDD or stream around the house. Any content that is already on my PC just requires me to switch it on (via either Wake on LAN, walking 10m upstairs and pressing a button, or bluetooth switchbot) temporarily to stream to my TV via a DLNA server. No need to leave anything running permanently.

Really the only way I can see home servers making sense, is if running the server itself is your hobby. The added convenience is almost zero, and for me wouldn't be worth it considering the £300/yr electricity cost and £300-£1000 initial outlay I can imagine for decent hardware and a few TB of drives if you don't have an old PC lying around. Plus all the time spent configuring, monitoring, and maintaining - most on this site do enough of that at work already, and I have enough hobbies as it is ;D

Re: Ask HN: What's on your home server?

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Home Server: Raspberry Pi 4 with an HDD (I've had bad luck with trim support on USB adapters for SSDs)

Open source software: Home Assistant, Home Intent, pihole, miniflix, pinry, and bookstack.

Small self developed software: Chore tracker, Package tracker, Chromecast radio streamer, and a simplistic Trello board

I'm just happy that all that works as well as it does on a single pi with a few users.

Re: Ask HN: What's on your home server?

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I have 3 rpi4s running my entire home network. One is a vpn router and a wifi AP, it also has Uptime Kuma. I need this to be reliable and rarely touch it except to improve its reliability. - Openvpn - HostAPD - Uptime Kuma (in docker) - A microservice invoked from Uptime Kuma that monitors connectivity to my ISPs router (in docker) - nginx, not in docker, reverse proxies to Uptime Kuma The second acts as a NAS and ha…

I have been thinking of setting up a pi4 as a wifi AP. Can you comment on the hardware performance? I am worried that the range or throughput might be poor, and thinking I might need to use an Intel ax200 or similar.

The range is indeed poor, and it depends a lot on your house/flat. Would definitely recommend using another machine with something like this.

In terms of throughput, right next to an AP, I just got 65Mb/s.

Re: Ask HN: What's on your home server?

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I've bought a used Dell Poweredge T320 with Xeon E5-2428L (low consumption), 24GB RAM and an SSD, so it's quiet and cheap to run, and I've got Debian with dockerized services. jwilder/nginx-proxy to act as a reverse proxy that dynamically routes traffic to containers without manually editing the config, using subdomains, with SSL wildcard cert DokuWiki that I don't use much anymore Nginx to serve static files used by…

I run a Poweredge T20 with a Xeon E3-1275Lv3. I snagged a 32GB kit of ECC ram from somebody's trashcan Mac Pro on eBay for a song and have a couple SSDs for OS and VMs. I use USB WD MyBook drives for storage and backups.

Right now the server, switch, drives etc is pulling 31 watts from the wall and it's so quiet you can't tell it's on. I'm sure it would keep running for hours off the cheap UPS I have it all on.

I had a second one as a desktop but the motherboard died last year. I'm not sure what I'll replace it with when the time comes. Probably one of those one liter PCs since I don't need internal 3.5" bays.

Re: Ask HN: What's on your home server?

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In a cloud server (hidden from the public) www.keycloak.org - auth mostly for outline www.getoutline.com - my personal "notion" nginxproxymanager.com - to proxy things Wireguard - remote access and interconnection between zones cockpit-project.org - to manage VMS github.com/coder/code-server - To remote develop 2x of docs.paperless-ngx.com/ (one for me and one for my partner) - I scan and destroy most of the letters…

Even though I sold mailcow and stopped working on it in the past months, it warms my heart SO MUCH to see people using it. :) Really, thank you. I have some ideas for a proper successor which would be much more scaleable, modern, flexible and would be more focused to use existing transports for piggybacking mail. A fully and safely encrypted mail storage as well as a cool interface to invite for encrypted sessions et…

Hi André.

First of all, thanks. I used hosted my own email 20 years ago, and when I saw how easy it was with mailcow, I decided to try again.

Looking forward to the mailcow successor. Is there anything up already?

Cheers.

Re: Ask HN: What's on your home server?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are alternatives. I chose paperless because was the most mature opensource solution. Be aware that there is paperless, paperless-ng and paperless-ngx. When I did the setup last year paperless-ngx look like the most maintained.

> When I did the setup last year paperless-ngx look like the most maintained. Just FYI, none of those were hostile forks, but in both the community taking over after the former maintainers abandoned the project. NGX is indeed the active version.

That's clearer. Thanks

Re: Ask HN: What's on your home server?

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On my home server running on a fitlet2 with no public access except through my wireguard vpn:

- jellyfin :: Media server for streaming music, tv, movies to my phones, ipads, and rokus

- nextcloud :: Storage, carddav, caldav

- frigate :: Object detection on my custom home cameras

- homeassistant :: Notifications/Automation (used with frigate)

- freshRSS :: RSS feed reader

- vaultwarden :: Bitwarden server

- bookstack :: Wiki

- yacy :: This is a distributed search engine, but I use it in non-distributed (robinson mode), and use it instead of bookmarks. Any interested page, instead of bookmarking, I add it to my yacy index

- smashing :: Dashboard. I have written some custom addons. This is shown in my front tv to track the real time location of buses at the stops near me.

- photoprism :: Photo manager

- snapdrop :: Airdrop replacement

- imapfilter :: Advanced mail filtering, like taking news letters and converting to RSS feeds

- dolibarr :: ERP for my side business

I run wireguard and pihole on a separate raspberry pi.

Re: Ask HN: What's on your home server?

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I have two raspberry pi's 8gb, with SSDs. Running Portainer for Docker management. I have everything containerized with docker-compose. - Most importantly, Cloudflare tunnel for exposing my services without opening ports on my router.

- Tor relay (non-exit)

- Pi-hole for DNS and ad blocking - Homepage dashboard

- Audibookshelf - Jackett

- Sonarr

- Radarr

- Jellyfin

- qBittrorrent

- Backup Pi-hole

- Uptime Kuma

Monitoring everything with Zabbix which runs on a VPS.

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