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Ask HN: You have one shot to redesign the Internet – what do you change?

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Re: Ask HN: You have one shot to redesign the Internet – what do you change?

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Post by excalibur »

OJFord wrote: post #75
pie420 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, let's design the internet around keeping 90s routers running as long as possible. Excellent. Let's also design highways with a max speed of 20 MPH so we can accommodate Model T's

A better analogy might be something like upgrading roads with the newly liberated fourth dimension; so mere three dimensional Model Ts - that people will try to use no matter your protest - are very unlikely to end up in the right place. (And not just Model Ts, but the entire twentieth century and a bit's worth of vehicles.)

Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads.

Re: Ask HN: You have one shot to redesign the Internet – what do you change?

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Post by swiley »

HWR_14 wrote: post #177
bob1029 wrote: post #94

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>We already have IPv6 I feel like starting with IPv6 would make a dramatic difference in adoption rates today... I.e. IPv4 never gets created. Imagine a world without a single NAT device or port translation algorithm.

Why am I the only one who likes all my devices in my house having one IP address. It's no one's business if I have 10 computers in here or 1.

There's nothing stopping you from continuing to route everything through one computer, since it's your address space you could even do NAT.

Re: Ask HN: You have one shot to redesign the Internet – what do you change?

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Post by throwaway81523 »

kodablah wrote: post #195
Animats wrote: post #122

Changes I would have made in the early days: - 48-bit static IP addresses. 70 trillion should be enough. 128 bits was overkill. - Nodes, not interfaces, have IP addresses, so you can use multiple paths. - IPSEC available but initially optional. - Explicit congestion notification, so packet loss and congestion loss can be distinguished. - Everything on the wire is little-endian, byte oriented, and twos complement. - Y…

> Mail is not forwarded Go one further, mail is pulled, not sent. One such approach is https://tonsky.me/blog/streams/ . It'd be hard to prevent moats and people might still coalesce into a few popular middlemen, but at least spam would be reduced. Spam is the primary reason client-side/self-hosted mail is left to the tech-savvy.

http://cr.yp.to/im2000.html

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Post by lmilcin »

Very easy choice. All services paid explicitly.

Having thing given for free to be then exploited for various purposes is reason why these services are shit - because you are not the client, the guy who pays for your data or advertising space is.

Re: Ask HN: You have one shot to redesign the Internet – what do you change?

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Post by jart »

wantsanagent wrote: post #69
jart wrote: post #17

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It's the 1960's. There's no RSA or AES or even DES.

Sure but it's a small community that hung out in person a lot. Tokens, pass phrases or one-time-pads could have been physically swapped. There's really just a difference in thinking, "private by default for email" vs "public by default." Or "untrusted network" vs "trusted network." However you want to think about it.

ARPANET had a link between Stanford and UCLA in the 1960's. That's a five hour drive. One time pads can only be used one time. Otherwise XOR is a pretty bad cipher.

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Post by kobalsky »

Animats wrote: post #122

Changes I would have made in the early days: - 48-bit static IP addresses. 70 trillion should be enough. 128 bits was overkill. - Nodes, not interfaces, have IP addresses, so you can use multiple paths. - IPSEC available but initially optional. - Explicit congestion notification, so packet loss and congestion loss can be distinguished. - Everything on the wire is little-endian, byte oriented, and twos complement. - Y…

> 48-bit static IP addresses

a static IP per device is google and facebook's wet dream. yeah apple, keep your IDFA for yourself.

also, imagine getting banned and not being to use google anymore, at all. asking your kids to google something for you and getting them banned too.

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Post by paulcole »

raarts wrote: post #206
paulcole wrote: post #170

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Just curious, how old were you circa 2000?

Not GP but I was 40. You?

18. I’m guessing GP was about the same age, give or take. Kind of like how SNL peaked when everyone was 16 and has been downhill ever since.

Re: Ask HN: You have one shot to redesign the Internet – what do you change?

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Post by Seirdy »

dbingham wrote: post #38

Find a way to better decentralize it, so that it doesn't rely on single hosts(and later sites) as the source of truth for any particular function. The original idea was that protocols would allow any one to participate by simply making their own webpage. But dynamic IP addresses, the DNS system, and even just HTML design were out of reach for most people so that got lost and monsterous websites under centralized cont…

Tor's hidden services and the Yggdrasil network are examples of decentralized alternatives to the DNS system.
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