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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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I don't buy that they're simply ignorant. Yes, perhaps they are but tied into that ignorance for many, many people (that I've met anecdotally and, i'm sure in statistical terms) is a strong willfulness about their postures. In other words, despite being shown any evidence you'd like, no matter how concrete about the incorrectness of their beliefs, they'll simply disregard said information, because to accept or even c…

> Again, this is not simple ignorance, it's something much more deliberate what is it? i couldnt get it from the comment... just curious

I'm tempted to call it a dogma, but it strikes me as something much more visceral than that. The closest that comes to mind is a mulish rejection of reason when it strikes emotionally rooted beliefs. Calling it "Anti-science" is valid but tricky, because the anti-scientific part can be very selective: argue with certain people about the safety of vaccine science and they reject you outright no matter what evidence you offer, but explain how a cell phone works to these same people and they'll happily defer to scientific explanations.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Buffett for one is notably democrat leaning. Also Soros and others.

Buffett calls himself a 'card carrying capitalist'. Have you looked at democrat policy in the past 4 years?

Democrats have yet to really propose abolishing capitalism, just taxing/regulating it a bit more usually.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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> I don't think being a hardass in the board room disqualifies you from being a generous and caring person in your private life. No, but it also doesn't somehow wipe away the actions he took to make that money. He didn't just attack other businesses, he attacked open source, and would have destroyed it if he could have. By all means, you can think whatever you like about the man. Gates has done some pretty slimy shit…

> He didn't just attack other businesses, he attacked open source, and would have destroyed it if he could have. By all means, you can think whatever you like about the man. Gates has done some pretty slimy shit. Being nice now is nice, and I applaud him for it, but nobody is obligated to develop amnesia. I’m not asking you to forget what he did as a business man. But people grow by integrating new information and ch…

> I’m grateful

Herein lies our difference of opinion. I consider it a positive thing that he's changed and grown. But grateful? Wealth-worship is gross and I'm not his dependent.

Again, he's buying what he wants to buy with his money.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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> He didn't just attack other businesses, he attacked open source, and would have destroyed it if he could have. By all means, you can think whatever you like about the man. Gates has done some pretty slimy shit. Being nice now is nice, and I applaud him for it, but nobody is obligated to develop amnesia. I’m not asking you to forget what he did as a business man. But people grow by integrating new information and ch…

> I’m grateful Herein lies our difference of opinion. I consider it a positive thing that he's changed and grown. But grateful? Wealth-worship is gross and I'm not his dependent. Again, he's buying what he wants to buy with his money.

Exactly right. He won the money game, he couldn't feed his ego with that anymore. Now he is feeding his ego with philanthropy. He literally couldn't spend it all on himself. So he sprinkles it around with his name attached. People don't cheer when I give pocket change to the homeless, yet it is a similar percentage of my net worth.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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My guess, which is just a guess, is that the founders got tired of Google Search and advertising and Android and mobile hardware and privacy issues and regulatory issues so much that the “don’t be evil” motto was glaring at their faces and made them uncomfortable enough to step aside and let others run the show (or run things into the ground). This must have allowed them to enjoy their riches in relative peace. Somet…

Last paragraph is the reason why I don't have kids

With kids, the soul crushing happens up front, and then it gets more rewarding.

Sort of the opposite story.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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post #182

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I'm pretty sure that Shockley, the founder of Shockley Semiconductor has them both beat. His management style was described as autocratic, erratic, and hard-to-please as well as domineering and paranoid. Not to mention his questionable views on race and eugenics. In 1957, eight of his researchers (the "traitorous eight") had enough, so they left and founded Fairchild Semiconductor, (co)invented the integrated circuit…

Has anyone ever found a study/research of how (in detail) Shockley hired technical staff? In an industry famed for unicorns and associated prescient hiring, Shockley still has a distinguished track record for picking some pretty respectable bets on young researchers and engineers.

IIRC https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004RTH6WK (about Robert Noyce) covers it in some detail. And I'm sure it's documented in more detail in https://www.amazon.com/Broken-Genius-Shockley-Electronic-Mac...

He did identify some very talented individuals but apparently was constantly slipping into paranoia and eugenics theory.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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I've met several people involved in union organizing at household name tech companies who have been disciplined by the companies they work for for exercising their "free speech" rights. You don't mean "tech left" here, you mean "liberal".

organizing unions against your employer is not free speech. Mojang was on social media and got blacklisted (cancel culture), completely different.

It's actually an activity protected by law.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Retired, I presume. Sometimes people just want to spend time with their kids and not have to work all the time. And I'm sure he talks to Sundar Pichai all the time, Alphabet/Google was his baby afterall.

May I ask? In English: "I presume" means that "I have no data and am speculating". I that correct? If that is correct, why would you give an answer? My query should not imply any criticism - just that I don't understand. Could you explain to an (Sincerely, From: obvious problematic person, who does want to learn)

Speculating, but more of an "assumption".

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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> Again, this is not simple ignorance, it's something much more deliberate what is it? i couldnt get it from the comment... just curious

I'm tempted to call it a dogma, but it strikes me as something much more visceral than that. The closest that comes to mind is a mulish rejection of reason when it strikes emotionally rooted beliefs. Calling it "Anti-science" is valid but tricky, because the anti-scientific part can be very selective: argue with certain people about the safety of vaccine science and they reject you outright no matter what evidence yo…

maybe "memes" are a useful term?

seems some memes get stuck in peoples heads and blocks all reasonable discussions?

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