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There is no proof immunity will happen, the UK Gov is thinking in economic terms and worried about GDP. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/mar/13/coronaviru...
Is 2 weeks "grace period" before implementing a lockdown and starting the heavy measures worth it in the long run? I don't think so.
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I'm going to go with the guy who was awarded an OBE for his work in infectious disease control: https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2016/leading_infecti...
OBE is a political honour, not a scientific one.
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Personally, I'm 30, have no contact with folks over 65, have no co-morbid conditions and so I have no reason to keep away from folks. I'm at zero risk. In fact if I get it now and develop an immunity, all the better. I have to assume the same is true of the folks at the pub -- otherwise it's them who are being irresponsible, not me.
You have a .2% mortality chance once you exhibit symptoms, right? That's much greater than no risk.
There's no such thing as no risk. I'm putting myself at risk of all sorts of things by leaving the house.
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^^^ 2000% this, a large proportion can't change their ways, is not paying attention or simply doesn't care. It's shocking to still tonight walk past a packed pub on a Saturday night
Personally, I'm 30, have no contact with folks over 65, have no co-morbid conditions and so I have no reason to keep away from folks. I'm at zero risk. In fact if I get it now and develop an immunity, all the better. I have to assume the same is true of the folks at the pub -- otherwise it's them who are being irresponsible, not me.
Here is a discussion on Channel 4 on the approach taken by the UK government. https://youtu.be/C98FmoZVbjs?t=590 Debating are: - John Edmunds: a professor in the Centre for Mathematical Modelling of Infectious Diseases, London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine - Tomas Pueyo: his modelling of the pandemic has gone viral on the web: https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-peop... During the debate,…
Look at chart 7 of Pueyos article. He uses this chart to underpin his argument that the lockdown in Wuhan is the way to approach controlling the virus. But note, on that chart it shows that testing only became available to the Chinese authorities 9 days before the lockdown. In all other outbreaks (even the US one) there has been widespread testing - it's just not reasonable to make inferences from that situation to a…
Can you back up that claim? From what I've read, the opposite seemed to be the case, especially in the USA.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3074945/coro... You better hope this isn't true and the virus doesn't have any lasting effects on reproductive health.
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That’s a very good point, you’re quite right. However all three of those are relatively very small population centres with very easily controlled borders. Britain does have the advantage of being an island, but it has a large rural hinterland that the virus can ‘hide out’ in, and many dense population centres without borders, so it’s a completely different environment. Take London. We could introduce a system of trac…
> millions of people flow into and out of London each week so it would be completely pointless and ineffective Was curious about this point in particular - checked the numbers, and Heathrow has essentially equivalent traffic as Hong Kong International.
Here is a discussion on Channel 4 on the approach taken by the UK government. https://youtu.be/C98FmoZVbjs?t=590 Debating are: - John Edmunds: a professor in the Centre for Mathematical Modelling of Infectious Diseases, London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine - Tomas Pueyo: his modelling of the pandemic has gone viral on the web: https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-peop... During the debate,…
I think this is really a battle against ignorance. Until people see results in front of them they aren't going to respect these rules without authoritarian measures. Best is to shut everything down for a month THEN let 40s and under back to work. By then, hospitals will have been overrun but hopefully on the upswing and people will be a lot more sober and willing to listen. I imagine once the shutdowns happen and rea…
Doubtful.
Here in Montreal, the streets are bare. Restaurants are at 50% capacity, there is no toilet paper anywhere.
We only have ~100 official infections in 30M people.
People are taking this pretty seriously and at least as far as 'not going out' and 'social distancing' it's going to be relatively easy to enforce.
There are few 'draconian' measures being taken by any government really anyhow.
I think we'll be doing this for 6 months at least.