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Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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Post by D_Alex »

sho_hn wrote: post #151
chakintosh wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you don't care about business practices and general privacy concerns, Bambu. While I agree, I think it's heavily underselling Bambulab printers in terms of UX and print quality, they are the absolute best in the market and by a mile.

Prusa generally has better print quality in terms of accuracy and better overhang performance. Prusa drives the slicer development ecosystem (Bambu Studio is a fork), so new production-ready advances typically come from them first, which is lovely to support. The Bambu products are fine. They print well. But the "it's on another level" stuff is mostly paid influencer narratives (a rampant thing in 3D printer YouTube,…

>Prusa generally has better print quality

Only if you compare Prusa printing at 50 mm/s with Bambu at 500 mm/s.

>and better overhang performance

What? No. Proof: https://youtu.be/HcSOz-Lsxgg?feature=shared&t=293

>Prusa drives the slicer development ecosystem (Bambu Studio is a fork)

Prusa slicer is also a fork ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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Post by motbus3 »

skhameneh wrote: post #8

If you don't care about business practices and general privacy concerns, Bambu. If you want a large printer that's decent for tinkering, Sovol SV08. If you want relatively good support and to support a company that has a history of giving back, Prusa. If you want something cheap with a lot of features that tend to be more high end, Elegoo Centuri Carbon. If you just want something cheap that's arguably incredible val…

Can I use custom slicer or other firmware/software with a BL?

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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Post by marcosscriven »

trialect wrote: post #243

So what exactly will you do with your printed plastic when you get bored of your printed stuff?

Certainly we should be mindful of single-use plastic. For prototyping, PLA is biodegradable in the right conditions, and doesn’t come from petroleum.

There’re all sorts of things 3D printing is good for.

Do you think 3D printing shouldn’t be allowed?

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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Post by imtringued »

jkestner wrote: post #198
alach11 wrote: post #19

I'm going to make an unpopular suggestion. Have you considered using a service that will print and ship to you, like CraftCloud? Depending on volume, your total cost would likely be lower. I know you mentioned privacy concerns so this may not be an option. But it significantly simplifies your work, letting you focus on the parts themselves.

This is the way. Multijet fusion has ruined me for anything else and it’s cheap from print shops. I just need to find one in town and I’ll get the quick turnaround time that’s the only reason to have my own printer.

I tried to check this on Xometry and the cost went from 4,83 € for FDM (quite overpriced unless they print with 0.05mm layer height) to 35,88 € for a tiny insignificant part of a much bigger print.

At those prices just the prototype alone will cost as much as an X1C. It's expensive enough that you'd rather print the prototype using an at home printer using random filament you have lying around and only print the end result once you're done prototyping.

Also there are no multijet fusion print shops "in town". That's an incredibly niche type of business you would expect in larger cities and therefore they would be priced accordingly.

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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Post by OJFord »

carpo wrote: post #105
OJFord wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP stated the requirements I quoted above, AMS definitely doesn't make sense, and I don't think Bambu makes sense either. Before Bambu, Prusa was the 'no tinker just print' brand, though I haven't used one I agree Bambu's taken the lead now, but I think given OP's desire for more openness and repairability etc. Prusa makes more sense. Fwiw: I have a Prusa Mini, and I'd buy Bambu today, I'm continually tempted by an e…

An AMS is useful just so you can have 4 different filaments ready to go at any time. Doesn't need to be for multi material models. I have an A1 with the AMS lite and a Prusa mk3s, and manually changing materials is a chore.

Fair point, I don't print enough (nevermind change material often enough) that it's such a bother that I thought of it. I expected the argument to be keeping it dry, to which I'd have said a drybox and/or dehumidifier is better and (could be) cheaper.

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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Post by rtaylorgarlock »

syntaxing wrote: post #200
sho_hn wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prusa generally has better print quality in terms of accuracy and better overhang performance. Prusa drives the slicer development ecosystem (Bambu Studio is a fork), so new production-ready advances typically come from them first, which is lovely to support. The Bambu products are fine. They print well. But the "it's on another level" stuff is mostly paid influencer narratives (a rampant thing in 3D printer YouTube,…

I haven’t tried the Prusa XL so I can’t say much about that and I’m a fan how Prusa supports OSHW. But let’s be real, Bambulabs printer are vastly superior. I don’t deny that a lot of “free” and open source work was used to make Bambulab printers today but their printers just work out of the box for less money. I’ve been 3D printing since the reprap days, had cheap printers like Enders, tried Prusa used upto the MKS2…

I'll counter: My Prusa mk2s I've upgraded to the point of Mk2.5s+. After ~10k hours, I'll call it as much of a 'product' as I need. I think the 'vastly superior' perception comes from people singularly want the print things without learning about 3dp. You know how Tesla fans and Soulcycle participants are like wildly enthusiastic about the things they enjoy despite some evidence that they should be a bit wary of supporting their favorite brands?

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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Post by Mogzol »

zdp7 wrote: post #115
Mogzol wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of these printers can be run completely offline, although then you obviously lose any network-related features such as sending prints over the network. I know that at least the Bambu printers (and I assume most others) can also be run in LAN-only mode, where they only work with devices on the same network. In this mode you could definitely firewall them without causing issues. The main features you lose by being…

Lan Only works by making you use the Bambu connect software. If the Bambu Connect software isn't running, Orca cannot start a print job or control the printer. It doesn't sound too onerous, but it should be mentioned that LAN only wasn't added till users gave 'feedback'. I suspect the original intent was Bambu Slicer only. https://blog.bambulab.com/updates-and-third-party-integratio...

It's the other way around. You can only connect to orca slicer or other programs if you are in LAN only mode. Otherwise you need Bambu connect.

Or just stay on the previous firmware version and you never need Bambu connect.

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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Post by amelius »

skhameneh wrote: post #8

If you don't care about business practices and general privacy concerns, Bambu. If you want a large printer that's decent for tinkering, Sovol SV08. If you want relatively good support and to support a company that has a history of giving back, Prusa. If you want something cheap with a lot of features that tend to be more high end, Elegoo Centuri Carbon. If you just want something cheap that's arguably incredible val…

Bambu is very slow with starting up a print. Even if you just printed something less than a minute ago, it will take at least a few minutes before it can do the next print.
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