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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

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You're missing that ChatGPT has been immediately, practically, and extensively useful to millions of people. Crypto, after more than a decade, has been useful only to criminals and scammers.

Kinda hillarious how this comment concisely mixes logical, factual and semantic errors.

Hope you didn't lose too much on crypto

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

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Are you able to give a specific example of a problem it helped you solve? Especially one that you were at a complete blocking point, it provided some solution, and then you were able to continue to expand upon that solution. I keep reading responses like yours, but I haven't seen any specific examples of problems being solved, so it all sounds very abstract. In my interactions with ChatGPT, it felt like just interact…

I think this speaks to the bubble you're in and how your kind of software development probably represents 0.1% of what's out there. I don't even know what WebGPU, Warren Abstract machine or "whatever is that you're trying to do" is. I've been doing dev for ~20 years now, most of the work out there is essentially plumbing events/databases/REST APIs/regexes/JSON/configs/ web UIs in existing and well established framewo…

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

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The parent comment claimed they had the value of 15-20 high priced world class consultants from every field, but this makes it seem like it does only the most basic common tasks.

Agreed. I asked it things I actually need help with, not relatively mundane tasks that are easily accomplished by reading documentation. And the fact that it answers so confidently and yet wrong concerns me.

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

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I'm not the OP but I had a similar set of experiences with ChatGPT so I find the discussion useful. Essentially I already know how to find what I need using a search engine, and I know how to use cues from the source material to judge if it's correct. When I try using ChatGPT for technical problems I face, I frequently get hallucinated answers that feel like a waste of time. Then I go on HN and read these paeans from…

> Then I go on HN and read these paeans from other technologists who say ChatGPT has completely changed how they work and is 10x better than using Google. I'd like to have that too! I just don't get it, it doesn't match my experience at all. This is exactly my experience and what I am trying to get at. I start feeling that maybe I'm missing out, so I go give it a try. My direct experience shows that it spits out gibb…

I think there are really people that have jobs where they mostly write the same http request code all day everyday and then go home. Especially in the web space and startup world. ChatGPT isn't optimized for us, it was designed for the JavaScript tutorial audience that somehow have remained gainfully employed.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

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no way Canvas and Blackboard will be obsolete in a few years. schools can't maintain all this infra system on own

The infrastructure will not be needed. Why keep a static book or a semi-interactive LMS when AIs act as tutors and mentors?

1. It's not a complete replacement

2. School are slow to adopt new techs

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

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OpenAI, at least in my day-day workflow for the last 9+ months has so superseded anything that google ever was to me that I'm having a difficult time comparing the two. I've got a monitor dedicated 100% of the time to ChatGPT, and I interact with it non stop during the flow of technical scenarios and troubleshooting situations that flow into me - working in areas that I have the slimmest of backgrounds in, and shutti…

My issue with ChatGPT is that it sounds like an expert consultant but I know it’s likely it’s just making up sentences some of the time. And I’d need a real expert consultant to know when.

So for an MBA major, 80% accuracy at 5% of the cost may be amazing but for me as an engineer and a person who cares, the inaccuracies are catastrophic.

I’m open to suggestions on how to work with this.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

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OpenAI, at least in my day-day workflow for the last 9+ months has so superseded anything that google ever was to me that I'm having a difficult time comparing the two. I've got a monitor dedicated 100% of the time to ChatGPT, and I interact with it non stop during the flow of technical scenarios and troubleshooting situations that flow into me - working in areas that I have the slimmest of backgrounds in, and shutti…

My issue with ChatGPT is that it sounds like an expert consultant but I know it’s likely it’s just making up sentences some of the time. And I’d need a real expert consultant to know when. So for an MBA major, 80% accuracy at 5% of the cost may be amazing but for me as an engineer and a person who cares, the inaccuracies are catastrophic. I’m open to suggestions on how to work with this.

> My issue with ChatGPT is that it sounds like an expert consultant but I know it’s likely it’s just making up sentences some of the time

So, just like an expert consultant?

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

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OpenAI, at least in my day-day workflow for the last 9+ months has so superseded anything that google ever was to me that I'm having a difficult time comparing the two. I've got a monitor dedicated 100% of the time to ChatGPT, and I interact with it non stop during the flow of technical scenarios and troubleshooting situations that flow into me - working in areas that I have the slimmest of backgrounds in, and shutti…

I have a different view. I have been trying to use GPT for some tasks like NP reductions, Linear Programming formulations, Graph problems, etc. and the results are maddeningly bad. Seriously, I have raged in front of my computer like I hadn't raged since the days of the NES Ghostbusters game. The amount of mistakes is incredible and the model seems to constantly feed into vicious circles of "I am sorry, you are correct, I made a mistake" then moving a few things around then being corrected again and ending up on the original mistake.

Two interesting things it did for me lately: insisted that 8 + 6 = 11 and also proved that P = NP. I don't know which solutions it may be providing you, but it can't be anything too complex, or at least not too abstract.

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

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In all honesty I've only been using InstantClaude so far due to the larger context window being something I'd want down the line. What should I be using in your opinion to get the best results? Examples I can think of where it gave wrong info was: - I asked to compare the size of the MacBook m1 and the 16" framework laptops - I asked how to add the nixpgs-unstable channel in NixOS. - I asked to help write a power she…

It's incredible to me that so many people still don't realize that GPT-4 is a completely different level from other LLMs. It's like if an alien visited and the first place they went was to a convention for Special Needs people and then they decided that humans were too stupid to talk to. Or rather, there was a Mensa convention next door with a $20 entrance fee and they figured it wasn't worth it. Or rather, for $20 e…

It "proved" that P = NP the other day, for me. So I think the Special Needs people would still be ahead.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

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OpenAI, at least in my day-day workflow for the last 9+ months has so superseded anything that google ever was to me that I'm having a difficult time comparing the two. I've got a monitor dedicated 100% of the time to ChatGPT, and I interact with it non stop during the flow of technical scenarios and troubleshooting situations that flow into me - working in areas that I have the slimmest of backgrounds in, and shutti…

Are you able to give a specific example of a problem it helped you solve? Especially one that you were at a complete blocking point, it provided some solution, and then you were able to continue to expand upon that solution. I keep reading responses like yours, but I haven't seen any specific examples of problems being solved, so it all sounds very abstract. In my interactions with ChatGPT, it felt like just interact…

If you look at his profile and history, it seems what's he does is mostly to parse jsons and generate config files.
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