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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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And EA

and Dropbox

I will never forgive Dropbox. I spent a decade evangelizing them as the way to do cloud file storage to all the tech-illiterate people in my life and then Dropbox decided to limit free accounts to three devices. The sheer number of pissed-off and/or confused phone calls I got from all of those people was enough to make me wish eternal suffering upon the Dropbox executives.

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I’ve tried to use Evernote a couple times, but within days it always lost data in syncing between devices. For me Evernote fails the “you had one job!” test. SimpleNote has been great to me. You can tell they’re not going to mess with the core recipe either.

Another Simplenote user here! Tried many but kept coming back. I wish Simplenote had a feature where I could toggle a flag to make a note “read only” and toggle again to edit if needed. That’d be lovely.

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The future is Notion.so My entire information management pipeline has been overhauled: I know Notion can be a little culty, but it genuinely has improved my performance so drastically I think it is the best thing to happen to me since the internet itself.

rip, I see how this reads as an ad but it was a genuine declaration. :<

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Maybe this is just me getting old, but I feel like Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago. Back then it was just a list of notes with some formatting and sync capabilities - perfect. These days they have added all these extra features which I don't need, and which have made the whole app slow and terribly clunky. When I use the iPad app it takes several seconds to load notes or sear…

Obsidian. It's markdown based, so simple at the base, but you can go wild with plugins ( including latex, graph visualisations, dynamic queries across notes, etc.), and it supports metadata, tags, etc. if you want to. You can sync with anything supporting text files ( Git, Dropbox, Google Drive, etc) or pay a bit for their ens to end encrypted service that works great.

Would like to mention excalidraw plugin for obsidian. It works in both desktop version and obsidian mobile (with pencil support). One can quickly scribble a drawing (LaTeX formulas allowed in drawings) and embed it in an obsidian note. Syncing between desktop, laptop and iPad works great.

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My main issue with Notes right now is that somewhere along the way we became OK with software having no Undo at all , combined with the power to instantly sync your typo everywhere so it is truly gone forever , combined with UI that basically encourages accidents. So if I am perfect when typing with a tiny virtual keyboard, nothing goes wrong; otherwise, I could lose things in ways that are interpreted by the softwar…

Apple Notes supports undo which reverts all changes you've made in the current editing session for a note. A note can also be undeleted for 30 days.

Isn't their sync system CRDT-based? Would be really weird to not have undo with it.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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What happened? They took VC money which forced them to "grow without bounds". This caused them to lose focus and expand their features in irrelevant ways while stretching their internal teams too much and not listening to their active customer base on features to prioritize (even though they had forums for this very purpose). Over time their tone-deaf stubbornness caused the accumulation of too much technical debt. Instead of doubling down on developing performant features that customers actually needed and wanted to use in their knowledge-bases systems, they dressed as Teletubbies (seriously, it was on their "Careers" page a few years back) and created a disjointed mess of alternate products that they did not integrate properly into their system (i.e. Penultimate does not integrate in any useful way). Then they had a brain drain and executive flight (new CEO etc.). Then they moved to Electron, lying to customers saying it was "Feature-Ready" (from the mouth of the CEO) when it was a dumpster fire of a regression, actually removing features and poorly implementing then existing ones. Now its a nagware-bloatware.

Don't take VC money for knowledge-base companies. You need thoughtful development for these types of applications and a commitment to the very long term, which is incompatible with VC. Obsidian has fallen into this same trap.

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Evernote have been walking a slow death march for 5+ years.

It is quite unfortunate. Around 2013-2014, I started systematically saving everything to Evernote and even got a paid plan. There were two issues: 1. Their app was getting buggy to handle on mac/win. The migration was terrible and they had a custom container format for export which was pretty useless. It became like the Hotel California of software. You could bring your stuff in, but never leave due to the lock-in. I…

Latest version has a closed beta Linux version.
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