1. Is it a MacBook Pro?
And that's it.
Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?
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Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?
#2421. S3 Standby/suspend support. If your laptop supports that, you can close the lid and it will power ~everything except the RAM down (sometimes a USB port still charges). In 'new' laptops, including almost everything Tiger lake and Intel, S3 is being phased out for Microsoft's "Modern Standby", known as S0ix (or sometimes InstantGo). This is much more like a mobile phone, where it stays on but attempts to use as litt…
This ! Support forums from all brands (big ones like Dell or Lenovo, but also niche brands like Framework) are plagued with requests from unhappy users with their laptop dying in their bag. All because of the Modern Suspend feature. Let's hope AMD mobile processors will work better, and that we'll be able to find decent laptops using them.
> Let's hope AMD mobile processors will work better, and that we'll be able to find decent laptops using them.
It doesn't have anything to do with the processor does it? Surely neither intel nor amd have removed S3 support?
AFAIK it's integrators (motivated by Microsoft's push of "modern standby"?) which make it unavailable in their bioses: S3 needs bios integration, modern standby is just S0. Or do you mean "hopefully AMD will have a better S0 idle"?
Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?
#243High up my list is repairability, which is why I am a big fan of the Framework laptop.
i've seen all the hype but i have to ask: what is replaceable on these that you can't replace on a thinkpad t/pxx? (or p1)
The usual replaceable parts are there in the Thinkpad P1 (SSD, RAM) but replacing the speakers, touch pad, screen or webcam is a much more involved process. I also haven't dared look at the keyboard replacement process. I also don't think you stand any chance of replacing the USB ports without a soldering iron once they start showing signs of wear and tear.
I think Thinkpads are actually quite fine for user serviceability, although I do find it was much easier to open my old HP Probook than it was to open my Lenovo P1 gen 3. Lenovo had me dig for a whole bunch of screws and tabs to pull off the bottom panel where HP let me access all the important parts with just one screw and a slide-off panel.
Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?
#244* AMD cpu that supports S3 sleep * At least 16GB of RAM * 1kg auw * 16:10 screen, that’s not 4k * 14” * Metal body * Repairable * NVMe ssd (not soldered) * USB-C charging (and video etc) * No gamer LEDs If someone has any suggestions I’d love to hear them!
I just ordered yesterday a Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 PRO AMD
Ticks a lot of that, except
Not sure about S3 and repairable
Its 1.4kg not 1kg but tradeoff is high build quality and not flimsy and beautiful 14" high res not 4k oled 2880x 16:10, and with 90hz refresh rate.
Wish it had a matt touch screen but thats the one thing missing for me.
Processor Up to AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX Mobile Processor Operating system Windows 10 Home or Pro Display 14″ 2.8K (2880 x 1800) OLED display with glass,16:10, 90Hz refresh rate, 100% DCI-P3, 125% sRGB, 400 nits, VESA Certified DisplayHDR™ 500 True Black, Dolby Vision®, 243 PPI, 91% AAR Memory AMD Radeon™: Up to 16GB DDR4-3200; Dual Channel NVIDIA® GeForce MX450: Up to 16GB LPDDR4-4266; Dual Channel Battery 61Whr Lithium-ion Polymer Storage SSD PCIe M.2: Up to 1TB Graphics AMD Radeon™ graphics and/or NVIDIA® GeForce® MX450 Audio 2 x 2W s Dolby Atmos® certified speakers Camera IR Camera Dimensions (H x W x D) 312.4 x 221.4 x 14.9-17.9mm
Hinge 175+/-5° Weight 1.39 kg
Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?
#245Decent RAM, it is never enough.
Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?
#246Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?
#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is with this knee-jerk defense of Apple every time someone suggests holding them to a higher consumer standard? You can sell good products while still embracing open technologies.
You pay $800 and you get your value. The market obviously decided that the value provided is good enough, since their sales are good. Just because you value certain things doesn't mean the collective does.
This is the market being insane though, because they pay a premium because of branding.
Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?
#248Display with 3:2 ratio, 2K or 4K resolution.
Good keyboard (high end surface devices have the best keyboards IMHO).
Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?
#2491. S3 Standby/suspend support. If your laptop supports that, you can close the lid and it will power ~everything except the RAM down (sometimes a USB port still charges). In 'new' laptops, including almost everything Tiger lake and Intel, S3 is being phased out for Microsoft's "Modern Standby", known as S0ix (or sometimes InstantGo). This is much more like a mobile phone, where it stays on but attempts to use as litt…
Was going to post the same thing (albeit far more poorly explained). Isn't Microsoft embarrassed about this? This has been an issue for my last two laptops over the last 5 years. How is it acceptable for this problem to still exist? My Lenovo supports S3 sleep, but I didn't discover it until probably a year into having bought it, so at that point my battery's ability to hold charge had already been sufficiently degra…
> if Visual Studio ran on Mac
It is! What do you mean? :)
Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
> get critical Windows Updates So you mean Microsoft can force your laptop to restart and lose all your work even when it's "off"? Amazing.
No, not when it’s actually off. If you’ve shut down, then it won’t do this, but if you put it to sleep it can. That being said, I hate this, with my old laptop I could close the lid and pop it in the bag and it would lose maybe 5-10% battery per day, with new laptop it happily unsleeps itself in the bag which has zero ventilation. So for safety reasons I have to shut my laptop down before putting it in my bag, then h…
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