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Ask HN: What is it like to be old? What advice would you give to younger people?

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How to build my ethics? Honest question, i have been clueless for a while.

Read the biographies of people you admire.

I will agree that this is generally a good way to go, although in my experience there have been quite a few individuals that I end up no longer admiring.

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My grandma is turning 107 next month. She is still in perfect shape cognitive wise and in reasonable physical shape for her age. When you have lived for so long, you have an interesting perspective on things. I think what she would probably tell you is that the most important thing in life is to be independent and to be able to adapt to changes. Everything is temporary. Anything you take for granted right now is gonna be gone at some point. Any person that is currently in your life is gonna die at some point. Death is really the only constant, and you have to be okay with that.

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As a man gets older, he seems more harmless, even neutered. At 66, I can now have much more substantive conversations with (for example) young women.

Advice: some lessons come only with age. People often don't learn not to care what other people think (because they're not thinking of them at all) until their 30's. It was only recently that I really learned that if you don't have expectations, you can't be disappointed.

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I'm only 47, but I have a couple guiding principles that have been helpful so far. The first is to stay flexible. I've been a runner, hiker, bicyclist, climber, kayaker etc all my life. I've gone in and out of shape depending on what's happening in my life. The only times I've really struggled physically have been when I let my muscles get really tight. Three weeks of steady stretching has done more than anything to make me feel better physically. If I can't run for some reason, maintaining flexibility makes it much easier to pick up any of these activities again.

The second is to find some new, significant challenge in each decade of life. Learning new things keeps us humble and alive. In my twenties I focused on teaching and long-distance bicycle travel. In my thirties I moved to Alaska and began doing mountain rescue work. In my forties I wrote a book, changed careers, and learned to drive a boat on the ocean. Each of these new experiences made me feel like I was 20 again, taking me far outside my comfort zone. In future decades I hope to learn a musical instrument well, and travel internationally. I'd also like to take another long bicycle trip and live without a motor for an extended period again.

There is great joy in growing old; it's much better than the alternative. :)

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Physically, my best advice is to take good care of your back and your teeth. These 2 things can make a huge quality of life difference once you are past 40. I would also add your eyes, but there is not a lot you can do about that one! Almost everyone needs reading glasses by 40. Glasses suck, but you get used to it. Psychologically, the best I can say is to forgive yourself for any stupid things you did when you were…

'Almost everyone needs reading glasses by 40'

I think it's more like 45 than 40.

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First, you'll probably never think of yourself as old. You'll look in the mirror and wonder why 20 year old you has all this gray hair and wrinkles. Second, it's ok to let things slide for a while, but the longer you let them slide, the tougher they are to fix (and if you wait too long, some things can't be fixed). See plenty of other comments about teeth, back, RSI, diet. If you decide to let something go for a whil…

> I'd suggest, be true to yourself, be true to your ethics. This. You will forget the people who hurt you. But you will remember the people you hurt. You will accept the things you tried and failed. But you will regret not trying. Going against your ethics will leave scars on your soul, and the reasons for doing so will seem so stupid in hindsight. But it takes some time to find your true ethics, and separate it from…

>You will forget the people who hurt you. But you will remember the people you hurt.

Could you elaborate on this? It seems like the exact opposite to me, I would more likely remember someone who hurt me than someone I've hurt, which in most cases I wouldn't even know I hurt them.

Re: Ask HN: What is it like to be old? What advice would you give to younger people?

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post #61

First, you'll probably never think of yourself as old. You'll look in the mirror and wonder why 20 year old you has all this gray hair and wrinkles. Second, it's ok to let things slide for a while, but the longer you let them slide, the tougher they are to fix (and if you wait too long, some things can't be fixed). See plenty of other comments about teeth, back, RSI, diet. If you decide to let something go for a whil…

How to build my ethics? Honest question, i have been clueless for a while.

How to build my ethics? Honest question, i have been clueless for a while.

Do you mean "how to I choose an ethical system to follow" or "how do I develop the strength of character to make hard choices"?

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Surprised a search for caffeine doesn't find anything on the page. Having given up soda around college (and never getting into coffee, and rarely drinking alcohol), almost 20 years later I'm glad I have the ability to drink just a little bit and get a good short burst of energy. Treat caffeine as you'd treat aspirin, or bandages, especially when you're younger and you really do have an efficient power generator, and…

I can't speak to caffeine, I'm still trying to kill that demon myself.

However, cutting out alcohol has increased my health and energy significantly. In your twenties you can drink every day, wake up at 8:00 and have a normal day. In your forties, that catches up with you.

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What's it like to be old? My boss is younger than I am and is absolutely sure he knows more about my job than I do, even though I've been doing it since before he was born and he never did it at all. People on TV keep trying to sell me stuff like Metamucil, some new kind of cane or similar silly gadget, or a scam investment, none of which I want. My grandkids can't understand why I can't read things they're holding r…

Thank you for your post. I have a question, and I really don't intend to be mean spirited even though it may come across as such. >I don't have enough money to retire but dream of it every day (See the above comment about my boss). Software development (assuming you are are a developer) is a very well paid profession, and has been for many decades. This is the only profession where people who are 4 years out of schoo…

Well paid != financially secure enough to never have to work again.

Yes, it's too personal a question. Also, your assumptions are overbroad.

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post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Programmers have been well paid since at least the dot com bubble, that's a conservative 20 years, wouldn't consider that 'fairly recently' imo. Also I would consider a bare six figure salary well paid.

Programmers have been well paid since at least the dot com bubble, that's a conservative 20 years, wouldn't consider that 'fairly recently' imo. Outside of a few hotspots like Silicon Valley, programming salaries tend to ramp up quickly in the first few years then hit a plateau. Other professionals like lawyers, accountants, doctors start more slowly but their plateaus are much, much higher. This is why 25-year-old p…

I agree and disagree here. Certainly not old enough to be able to input on the wisdom/experience aspect yet, but from what I have seen in my time in this industry, investing your time in what is current is a surefire way to get left behind. The technology that sticks over the years are the things other people would rather take shortcuts to use, or wrappers upon wrappers upon wrappers.

With every abstraction away from the core computing libraries, you take a bigger risk and enter into a bigger gamble with your time.

I certainly know I am keeping miles away from node and webassembly (although the latter is interesting), simply because I was under a guy who has focussed his efforts not on acquiring fancy knowledge, but rather using simple techniques to achieve complex results.

Soon the very simple things I learned to appreciate, ended up being things I now use every single day to do stuff way more complicated than a person of my intellect should be able to accomplish.

Anyways, this got kind of sidetracked on the way, but I have to work with colleagues who have cemented years of knowledge in archaic tech, that while current at the time, ended up fading away over the years. They still have knowledge and skills, but they let their experience shackle their thinking, and oftentimes come up with extremely complicated solutions for very simple problems.

I think this is also the point in their lives where they got comfortable enough to think they don't need additional training, where I was very much taught that there is no limit to knowledge that can be acquired.

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