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Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by rrggrr »

phil21 wrote: post #197
elastic_church wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"To big [to allow] to fail" is what that term means. This would extend to a service like amazon actually, where survival of the service would be an extraordinary effort in case this problem lasted for a long time. The way you imagined it, as 100% uptime, is incorrect.

I didn't get that at all from the OP. His comment I'm fairly certain is of the "why the heck are we centralizing the web to 2 or 3 infrastructure companies" for what amounts to a minor amount of convenience. We've seen this story play out in other industries and it never works out well for average people. It's been astounding for me to watch the pace of this centralizing and who is helping it along. The tldr; point i…

Yes: "why the heck are we centralizing the web to 2 or 3 infrastructure companies". Its a systemic asset, unregulated, in a world where every systemic asset is regulated (eg. utilities, transportation infrastructure, etc.).

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by johansch »

rattray wrote: post #233
mwfj wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess their bizarre thinking is something along the lines of: "unless we have proof that noone can access the service, we won't change the indicator from green to yellow. Seriously: I don't understand why you guys stay with AWS.

> I don't understand why you guys stay with AWS. Who do you recommend instead (assuming in-house or Hetzner-equiv is out of reach)? Google Cloud? Azure? Rackspace?

Google Cloud if you're looking for something similar. It's just so much better and cheaper. I think a lot of the resistance here towards that kind of move is just because people are inherently lazy and they aren't paying the bill themselves.

(I'm guessing a relatively large part is also selfish attachment to the market leader because of employment reasons. I hate wasting money, both for myself and for my employer, so I don't really understand this kind of thinking - but I do understand how it could flourish in a venture capital-rich time/locale.)

I also recommend reading:

https://thehftguy.com/2016/06/15/gce-vs-aws-in-2016-why-you-...

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by obeattie »

magic_beans wrote: post #167
obeattie wrote: post #121

Best thing about incidents like these: post-mortems for systems of this scale are absolutely fascinating. Hopefully they publish one.

Have they even acknowledged the mortem..?

Yes.

"We've identified the issue as high error rates with S3 in US-EAST-1, which is also impacting applications and services dependent on S3. We are actively working on remediating the issue."

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by jchmbrln »

gamache wrote: post #127

A piece of hard-earned advice: us-east-1 is the worst place to set up AWS services. You're signing up for the oldest hardware and the most frequent outages. For legacy customers, it's hard to move regions, but in general, if you have the chance to choose a region other than us-east-1, do that. I had the chance to transition to us-west-2 about 18 months ago and in that time, there have been at least three us-east-1 ou…

Probably valid, though in this case while us-west-1 is still serving my static websites, I can't push at all.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by elbigbad »

Taek wrote: post #217

Mass outage like this is exactly one of the things we are looking to avoid by building a decentralized storage grid with Sia. Sia are immune to situations like this because data is stored redundantly across dozens of servers around the world that are all running on different, unique configurations. Furthermore, there's no single central point of control on the Sia network. Sia is still under heavy development, but it…

Not to push my own product...proceeds to push own product

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by verelo »

Years ago when we launched our product i decided to use the US-WEST-2 region as our primary region and to build fail over to US-EAST-1 (Anyone here remember the outage of 2011? Yeah, that was why).

There is something to be said about not being located in the region where everything gets launched first, and where most the customers are not [imo all the benefits of the product, processes and people, but less risk].

Good luck to everyone impacted by this...crappy day.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by pmalynin »

rattray wrote: post #233
mwfj wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess their bizarre thinking is something along the lines of: "unless we have proof that noone can access the service, we won't change the indicator from green to yellow. Seriously: I don't understand why you guys stay with AWS.

> I don't understand why you guys stay with AWS. Who do you recommend instead (assuming in-house or Hetzner-equiv is out of reach)? Google Cloud? Azure? Rackspace?

OVH
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